A Young Hoon's Response to our "Dying" Car Culture

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Nope, no car culture here.

There’s a Washington Post article proclaiming that, once again, car culture in America is diminishing and it’s largely due to millennials losing interest. I trust I’m preaching to the choir when I tell you, a passionate Hooniverse reader no matter the age, that this is a load of crap.
The author of the Post article is far from the first expert to rant about our dying car culture, but what sets this one apart is that this guy has hard evidence in the form of… a few people he talked to that happened to agree with what he wanted to prove. The article reads like a eulogy for a time when the cars were better and everyone loved them, only to be unceremoniously killed off by cars that operate themselves and are treated with contempt. Times have certainly changed since the 50’s and 60’s – a time the Post article compares everything to – but that only means car culture has changed too in order to adapt and survive, and survive it does.
This article has already spawned off several good rebuttals on other automotive websites, but as our resident young guy (23) who devotes virtually all free time to car culture in one way or another and happily writes about these things every week for cheap, I felt the need to respond to someone trying to tell me how I’m killing it.

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Car culture in America – perhaps the world, even – is not dying at all. Rather, car culture is just changing as the world does. Everything is more complex and our needs have evolved. The world is vastly different than it was in the 1950’s and 60’s, a time when car culture was arguably at its golden age (as the original author, Marc Fisher, alludes to several times).
That also means car culture is just one of those things that’s changed too and I’d say what we have now is still a very active and healthy car culture in 2015. It’s huge now. This culture of ours spans continents and manages to be all-inclusive to anyone that shares the passion. That’s something car culture could never become until now given the wonders of the 21st century. Everyone reading this knows that all very well, but somehow there are others trying to tell the rest of the world that it’s not really that big. It’s not as good as it used to be. Because our car culture today doesn’t look exactly as it did years ago, it hardly exists at all.
In the Post article, Fisher and the boomers he screened for interviews compared modern day car culture to how things were back in their day, as people do. In their words, it was a time when everyone worked hard to buy their first car because a car brought unbridled freedom. They cruised down boulevards at night and met up with friends at a diner to do whatever it was that young people did in the glory days. Cars were essential to culture back then and everyone loved them. Life was perfect and the cars had tail fins and stuff so they were perfect too. Fair enough.
But they then go on to make disparaging comments about how people today – mostly millennials – made everything worse.
Teens apparently no longer work hard to buy their first car since everyone is connected by social media now, clearly negating the need for a car to actually go see the people they’re talking to. Parents are also too protective these days so a car doesn’t bring freedom anymore either. People stopped driving to meet up at restaurants and movie theaters as soon as Domino’s and piracy became a thing. Now we only use our cars for commuting and after the cars lost their tail fins and shifted focus on reliability (paraphrasing Fisher’s actual words), we lost interest too.
Most millennials can’t even open their hoods! Not that they’d need to, because reliability dramatically improved when automakers ditched fins. And since cars all have computers now, it’s impossible to become attached to anything new.
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No fins. Just wings.

Those are all things we’ve heard millions of times by now (except for the tail fin thing… that’s hilarious) and they’ve practically become a cliché that people like Fisher fall back on when they’ve run out of other things to yell at us about.
Nobody is denying that the “glory days” of car culture were wonderful, but to say “nobody cares anymore”, “cars are computers now”, “it’s just not the same”, etc. as “proof” that we’ve lost our passion for cars is as short-sighted as saying “rock is dead because people don’t listen to The Kingsmen anymore”. They’re missing the big picture, and quite frankly, they’re also missing out.
The cars are different and the new generation of people that love them are very different, but the passion for cars among those that possess it is as strong as ever. There are still car enthusiasts among us and there is still a great culture to explore. How do I know this? Because I’m one of the many that have explored it. It’s clear that Fisher didn’t do much of that for his article. It’s like a guy standing outside of a bar ranting about how horrible it is whilst the people inside are just having fun being drunk off their minds.
Even though I’m not drunk (right now) I can’t comprehend how people like this look at everything we have now in this culture of ours and say it’s diminishing.
They must lament about how cars don’t have tail fins anymore and how everything looks the same, but nobody said car enthusiasts have to drive flashy cars. They must also drive past some tattooed millennial driving a slammed Jetta that scrapes on every grain of asphalt and think he’s just some dumb kid, when really he’s someone who cares enough about cars to make something personal and unique out of whatever he can afford with two jobs and tuition payments.  Then they’d see a teen driving a beat up ’93 Civic thinking she doesn’t care enough to have something with tail fins, not realizing she rebuilt it in her driveway with few tools and no prior experience just because she cared enough to learn.
There are still people like that. Young people, too.
So many in fact that Atlanta’s Caffeine and Octane car show can bring ten thousand spectators of all ages to a mall parking lot at the ass crack of dawn with nothing on the agenda besides looking at any car that shows up. That also means they wouldn’t see a young kid’s reaction to a cool car or the owner’s elation that someone was interested in what they own. And they’d definitely not see the huge crowd of people gathered around a BMW i8 that just got parked up front, proving that people can still be blown away by a new car filled with enough tech to practically “drive itself”.
Is none of that car culture?
And what of all the car forums? The thousands of YouTube channels dedicated to nothing but cars that people dedicate their livelihoods to running? Just more proof that people don’t need cars to talk about cars because they do it online now!
And pay no attention to Autoweek Magazine either or else they’d find enough young car culture to fill an entire magazine. Yours truly even got to help with that and it’s already happened twice since last fall. A major automotive publication that first came to print in 1958 – during the “golden era”, mind you – thought young car culture today was important enough to dedicate two whole issues to. They wouldn’t have done that if it wasn’t worth their time, but clearly it was.

To sum up a rant…

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Nope, nobody uses motor vehicles to be free anymore.

There are people of all ages that are still keeping car culture alive in the 21st century and it’s sad that people ignore those efforts by saying it’s all going downhill. We have just as much passion about cars now as our elders did in the 60’s; it just looks different now.
Until people like Fisher give enough shits to go out and actually try to be a part of modern car culture, they’ll just assume it’s not active anymore. That’s not fair to the people still making cars a part of their life. It’s not fair to the young people carrying tradition and it’s not fair to the older enthusiasts who happily pass down traditions.
The belief that car culture is dying in the 21st century is a myth. To imply that young people are the ones driving it into the ground is insulting. Meanwhile, car culture goes on. All are welcome.
 
For a great bonus rant with more snark and factual evidence, check out Patrick George’s rebuttal on Jalopnik (and cheers for the shout out).
[Sources: The Washington PostJalopnikAutoweek | Images © 2015 Hooniverse/Greg Kachadurian]

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24 responses to “A Young Hoon's Response to our "Dying" Car Culture”

  1. crank_case Avatar
    crank_case

    Great piece, despite being an old fart myself, trying to balance the responsibilities of middle age with trying to get the tiniest amounts of time with a 90s miata, I’m also sick of the Millenials don’t care about cars cliche. Even if you just look at how car based videogames still sell by the truckload when they could just go play minecraft, shows there’s an interest in cars. I think it’s just that it’s harder in some places (outside the US moreso) for younger drivers to aspire to nice cars, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t the interest.

  2. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    I completely agree.

    As a 16 year old car enthusiast, I often look at ages of the people who volunteer and attend shows with me, and I have to say, there are a number of young people. Just this past weekend, I was helping out at the Reynolds-Alberta Museum, a place that preserves transportation of types.

    I wasn’t the only kid there, either! There was a large amount of young people, of both genders, doing everything to preserve the past! And when I listen to my classmates, all I hear is how about they want to get this car, or that truck. Their tastes may be different from mine (GTRs vs. Alfa Romeos, Cummins vs 70’s Chevys) but they are still car enthusiasts all the same.

  3. theskitter Avatar

    When we wring our hands because something is dying, what it usually means is that it never existed in the first place, at not least in the form that gets idealized and memorialized and sanctified. Automotive culture has always been a small subculture, a weird one at that. It was a fringe, and it is a fringe. Enthusiast cars are rare because enthusiasts are a small market with specialized, expensive tastes. The few extra dollars to dress up a commuter refrigerator are not worth it to most actual commuters or their manufacturers. But enthusiasts are still here. We’re weird. And always have been. More varied. Get used to it.

  4. Rick Deacon Avatar
    Rick Deacon

    We gave this a quick chat on our podcast – Clutchkick. Give us a listen and hear our thoughts on the Washington Post article.
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/clutchkick/id1031095134?mt=2

    1. Batshitbox Avatar
      Batshitbox

      Maybe wait after you’ve contributed a bit more than two comments to this forum to shamelessly self promote. We’re not here as an advertising platform for your ‘brand’, and you’re reinforcing the negative stereotype of millennials, bloggers and podcasters as egocentric, artless blatherskites.

      1. Rick Deacon Avatar
        Rick Deacon

        Sorry, you’re right. I should contribute more.
        However I’m only sharing something that would interest the readers of this article.
        And I have nothing to gain. We don’t do it for money.

  5. salguod Avatar

    I’d love to see the mass of young car nuts in DC show up at the Post one day.
    “Um, Mr. Fisher?”
    “Yeah?”
    “Youth car culture is here to see you, and they’ve completely clogged the parking garage.”

    1. hubba Avatar
      hubba

      That’s all of them. Enough to fill a parking garage.

  6. Batshitbox Avatar
    Batshitbox

    I was able to spend 3 hours on an airplane switching back and forth between Counting Cars and Fast ‘n’ Loud, so there’s enough car culture to keep at least two Custom Car television shows on the air.
    Car Talk is still on the air, even though there hasn’t been a new episode in years. Who’s listening?
    When was the last time you heard of a US automobile museum closing down because of attendance?
    The availability and price of IH Scout parts has at least doubled in the past 10 years; but no, there’s no car culture driving that. That’s not a classic car market that suddenly developed in the 21st century. /sarcasm
    Why don’t these gibronis ever consult internet commentators before going to print? Save a lot of embarrassment. At the very least this article will serve as a rallying point, and car culture will be all the stronger for it. There’s something to be said for reverse psychology.

    1. hubba Avatar
      hubba

      Car Talk is still on the air because it’s cheap and it has an established audience. It’s a show built on its hosts. It could just as easily have been about gardening. Citing Car Talk is like saying people want more stories about Minnesota Lutherans because they like Garrison Keillor.
      US auto museums are mostly funded by rich guys who don’t have enough relatives to bequeath all their money, or don’t like their relatives enough. Like almost every museum , they aren’t funded at the front door. That’s why they’re mostly named after the primary guy who funded them: Nethercutt, LeMay, Gilmore, Ford.
      The biggest museum that tries to operate on a commercial basis with the public, the Corvette Museum, is really dicey financially. The biggest attraction they’ve ever had was a *hole in the ground*, not a car.

    2. ptschett Avatar
      ptschett

      Well, there was the Walter P. Chrysler Museum which “closed to the public due to low attendance on December 31, 2012”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_P._Chrysler_Museum

  7. Bradley Brownell Avatar
    Bradley Brownell

    I’ll just leave this here.
    http://bzrong.kinja.com/good-vibrations-1728596477

    1. nanoop Avatar
      nanoop

      So that’s what he’s doing now – I always thought he’s quite a radiohead.

  8. JayP Avatar
    JayP

    https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t35.0-12/11989294_10153661742977853_1912858839_o.jpg?oh=40205e85a464df514953a23deeda480f&oe=55F08996
    So this weekend the kid and I picked up the free VW. Getting a car that hasn’t run in 4 years unloaded was a chore. My son and his pal helped push when needed. My son is 13, the pal is 14, the pal’s brother is 17. Andrew asked if he was driving yet. Not yet and he didn’t want to be near him when he drives. I asked why- said he was uncoordinated and clumsy.
    Their family isn’t a car-family. They drive a Korean car. Cars are not a hobby as with me and my son.
    My other neighbor used to watch her grandson during the week. He’s 5 or 6 and would run out when he he heard the Mustang fire up. His dad drives an Acura SUV. He always said he liked my car. I gave him a Mustang Hotwheel (and told his dad) hoping that takes root.
    Here’s a pic of the lad and the free VW.
    I might have to start a Go Fund Me thing for this jalopy!

  9. Maymar Avatar
    Maymar

    Yup, I’m millennial, I’m pro-cars, I have my own little car culture, my own little group of friends who’re varying degrees of gearheads, but I really don’t feel the need to attend some cruise night with the same dozen tri-five Chevys, early Mustangs, and late model Corvettes, where they play the same stagnant Greatest Rockin’ Hits of the 50’s! on endless loop.
    Then again, even with my wife and I being lucky enough to have incurred no student debt, just can’t justify a second car at all, let alone a finicky classic (I can’t complain too much about the Barrett-Jackson effect on prices, because at least I’m partial to more obscure stuff which can occasionally be found sub-$10k). Plus, just trying to ensure financial stability, paying off a mortgage, planning for an erratic stream of employment means that sort of leisure spending just isn’t a priority.

    1. JayP Avatar
      JayP

      If I hear “Mustang Sally” or “409” again I’ll scream.

      1. Maymar Avatar
        Maymar

        Even though it’s 80’s, it always ends up there, and if I never hear Bad To The Bone again, it’d be too soon.

  10. wunno sev Avatar
    wunno sev

    i goddamn hate everyone talking trash about “millenials” all the time. i’ve ranted about it here before.
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/04/why-are-the-baby-boomers-desperate-to-make-us-millennials-hate-ourselves
    ^^good article. anyone talmbout “you text too much” or how we’re all “entitled” gets a smack. and the young “car people” quoted in that article sound like total wangs anyway, so i’m completely cool with them not existing anymore.

  11. Eric Rucker Avatar

    There’s two different kinds of car culture.
    There’s car enthusiast culture, which is very much alive, and may be in even better shape than it was in the 1950s. And, the people who are buying smartphones instead of cars? They never were enthusiasts, they just cared about the mobility a car enabled.
    I mean, I’m in a hotel RIGHT NOW on my way home from TDIFest, which is an annual event for Volkswagen TDIs, and it had over 100 people (and that’s a low attendance year – partially because of the location this year). Let’s face it, while there were VW events back in the 1970s and 1980s, and maybe even watercooled-specific events, you wouldn’t get 100+ people to show up to a TDI-specific event in the middle of nowhere, Maine, without the very technology that the WaPo author is blaming for the “death” of car culture.
    Then, there’s what those in cycling communities (and likely other communities promoting things such as walkable cities and mass transit) refer to as car culture, which is the idea that cities should be designed first and foremost around moving cars (and therefore, that a car is something that someone should own to be a participant in society), rather than moving people. This is what’s dying (and I’m all for that), not enthusiast culture. The daily driver isn’t a sustainable concept, but the occasional back road drive to Cars & Coffee is. And, if this kind of car culture dies, all the left-lane hogs and pedal-misappliers with Toyota products stop driving. (A mechanic friend likes to refer to the Prius as the perfect car for someone who hates the idea of a car, but must own one due to their lifestyle.)

  12. abzman2000 Avatar
    abzman2000

    I like cars, I also happen to be about the same age as the Hooniverse resident young guy here. If the economy was in a better state, and by that I mean if I got paid more, I would have a much nicer less restoration-needed project car. As it stands right now I have a heap/death trap in the process of being resto-modded back to life. I happen to be among the crowd that likes fins, suicide doors, stainless trim everywhere, and clever wind wings that channel water outside the car when open. I have friends who are enthusiasts for newer things, but as an electrical engineer I’d rather fix/mod a wiring diagram with about 100 connections adding my own lockouts, computers, SSRs, and fluff than try to figure out 185 pin Delphi connectors, CAN packets, and ECUs that are so finicky about sensor inputs. I’ve re-soldered a friend’s RAV4 ECU to fix transmission issues, I’ve helped with chrysler’s stupidly high PSI brakes from the early ’90s, and I’ve learned to stop offering to help remove certain car batteries because the manufacturer should be locked up for crimes against humanity, even though those things are not what I want for my car. If I can convince my buddy to ditch the Volvo for a ’56 corvette gasser I will, but if he wants a shoebox racecar I’ll still help with his custom LED headlights.

  13. Rover 1 Avatar
    Rover 1

    Brilliantly, searingly, clearly and succintly stated.
    Thank you.

    1. Greg Kachadurian Avatar
      Greg Kachadurian

      Thank you, and thanks for reading!

  14. Shotgun Chuck Avatar
    Shotgun Chuck

    This is an ultra, ultra late reply to an article I found from a web search, but: speaking as someone who was 20 years old when this was written, 23 now, I can’t really agree. Car culture is dying, and we, the young people, are killing it. Sure modern car culture looks active on the surface, but it’s mainly composed of a few groups:
    1. Japan-worshippers letting their own countries’ car cultures wither and die in favor of another’s.
    2. Stancers.
    3. Stealth leftists who worry about atmospheric CO2 levels and embrace electric and autonomous cars.
    4. A rapidly aging group of people who are into hot rods because that’s what they grew up with. How much deep lore are these guys going to take to the grave with them because their descendants aren’t interested in anything with smooth fenders or more than six cylinders?
    You mention the quantity of racing games which currently exists, but that doesn’t matter much when so many “mainstream” or arcade-style games are brake-to-drift travesties. The Crew 2 is an exception, but it has its own issues.
    Sure there are a few exceptions here and there. I like to think I’m one of them. But the fact is, car culture is dying because it’s no longer hardcore enough. Every time someone comes up with some new argument about safety or the environment, we just lay down and roll over, doing nothing to protect our hobby. Sooner or later we’re going to lay down and roll right off a cliff. I’ve already seen supposed enthusiasts say they wouldn’t mind autonomous cars going mainstream if it meant fewer accidents. And since people anymore have now real since of how past, present, and future connect, they don’t realize that their acquiescence to the anti-car forces is only the latest iteration of something that has been happening for decades.
    From what I’ve seen on the internet, Europe and the UK have had their people, both inside and outside car culture, way too propagandized to ever stop supporting their suffocating nanny/ninny states, the US is rapidly heading in that direction, and Japan and Australia aren’t there yet but the authorities in those countries are trying their dangedest to stomp out car culture anyway.