Last Call: Can’t even defend against water

Jeff Glucker

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The Land Rover Defender represents an irrational case of WANT in my brain. I know it’s not the greatest machine out there, yet I still desire to own one. And I will, someday. Before that happens, I will continue to read about how they’re terrible machines. Case in point; the below tweet from Sniff Petrol. He took his Defender to the car wash. This means both he and his interior were also washed as well.

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Jeff Glucker is the co-founder and Executive Editor of Hooniverse.com. He’s often seen getting passed as he hustles a 1991 Mitsubishi Montero up the 405 Freeway. IG: @HooniverseJeff

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34 responses to “Last Call: Can’t even defend against water”

  1. Sjalabais Avatar
    Sjalabais

    “I will not buy a Nissan again”, said random internet stranger Sjalabais. But don’t trust random internet strangers! Here’s our new toy:

    https://i.ibb.co/qggwDDr/IMG-20190427-151333.jpg

    I won’t be driving it much, but it was peppier than expected: The ride home, about 40 kms, consumed 65 kms of range.

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    1. Smaglik Avatar
      Smaglik

      Is that one of them there electrics?

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    2. P161911 Avatar
      P161911

      If you use the heat, the range is reduced by about 40%. Is that a brand new one? We leased a 2015 for 2 years. If you don’t have a level 2 charger at home, get one. Amazon sells them for a little over $200 over here. I’ve been using a cheap one from Amazon for over 2 years with our Volt with no issues. Be prepared for abnormally high tire wear (less than 24k miles on a set), heavy car with skinny tires. Congrats.

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      1. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        Yeah, I’ve read that winter range here in Norway is about 80kms. I have this super steep driveway (up to 35 degrees, 50m long – not kidding) that’s unusable in the winter. So right now I am charging it at an outlet I have at the top of my driveway, to check if it works. Only type 1 for now, but if EV life is for us, we may prepare ourselves better soon. Chademo network exists everywhere here, too. It’s a 24kWh 2012 with original tires that need to be replaced based on age alone. 72000km, about 8000$. That’s a good deal here, but I guess you get those almost for free by now? Also one thing I am not sure of: I don’t drive my gas cars cold for short distances. No such considerations with EVs, right?

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      2. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        Yeah, I’ve read that winter range here in Norway is about 80kms. I have this super steep driveway (up to 35 degrees, 50m long – not kidding) that’s unusable in the winter. So right now I am charging it at an outlet I have at the top of my driveway, to check if it works. Only type 1 for now, but if EV life is for us, we may prepare ourselves better soon. Chademo network exists everywhere here, too. It’s a 24kWh 2012 with original tires that need to be replaced based on age alone. 72000km, about 8000$. That’s a good deal here, but I guess you get those almost for free by now? Also one thing I am not sure of: I don’t drive my gas cars cold for short distances. No such considerations with EVs, right?

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      3. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        Yeah, I’ve read that winter range here in Norway is about 80kms. I have this super steep driveway (up to 35 degrees, 50m long – not kidding) that’s unusable in the winter. So right now I am charging it at an outlet I have at the top of my driveway, to check if it works. Only type 1 for now, but if EV life is for us, we may prepare ourselves better soon. Chademo network exists everywhere here, too. It’s a 24kWh 2012 with original tires that need to be replaced based on age alone. 72000km, about 8000$. That’s a good deal here, but I guess you get those almost for free by now? Also one thing I am not sure of: I don’t drive my gas cars cold for short distances. No such considerations with EVs, right?

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        1. P161911 Avatar
          P161911

          I think that is about the going price here. They were about giving them away 2 years ago, because everyone that could in my state, Georgia, leased one before the tax incentive expired ( worked out to about $70/month, 0 down for the lease after tax rebate). I missed the chance to buy my 24k mile, level 3 charge equipped model for $6400 out the door.
          The only cold driving consideration is that you can pre-heat the car while it is still charging to conserve the battery. Nice thing is the heat works almost instantly, dont have to wait on coolant to heat up.

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          1. Sjalabais Avatar
            Sjalabais

            I actually remember well how you explained those incentives earlier – quite unbeatable! Surprised through that they hold their value so well. Pretty excited, this purchase felt good, great seller, too (private party).

          2. Smaglik Avatar
            Smaglik

            Congrats! Did you sell something, or is this just an addition?

          3. Sjalabais Avatar
            Sjalabais

            The Honda is on its way out. It’s newly tech inspected though and not worth much, so I guess we’ll keep it around for a few more months to get some work done on the house. We’re looking to replace the Camry with a normal petrol wagon, too, within 15 months or so. Looking at alternatives is half the fun of buying.

          4. Smaglik Avatar
            Smaglik

            Exciting. I love car shopping!

          5. P161911 Avatar
            P161911

            The window sticker for mine said MSRP was over $40,000. They do seem to have plateaued in the upper 4 figure range.

          6. Smaglik Avatar
            Smaglik

            With my unhealthy obsession of roundel things, I’ve been caught looking at used i3s with the range extender (I’m sorry, no matter how many times I read that, it feels like a spam email from the late 90s). Mid teens. But then I think about trying to fix it when it breaks, cause it will break, and, yeah….perhaps not…

          7. Sjalabais Avatar
            Sjalabais

            With its skinny tires and the weird kink in its profile, it looks a bit foolish from the outside, but especially the birchwood interior is one of the coolest car interiors I have seen. Very popular car here, too.

            We went on a trip to the village today, us four in the Leaf. It’s about 8 kms, which consumed 40 kms of range. My household council overlord is now highly sceptical and a bit angry at my optimism and car advice. Oops.

          8. Smaglik Avatar
            Smaglik

            That’s pretty poor. Nice work, Sherlock!

          9. neight428 Avatar
            neight428

            It’s sad how the car/project optimism filter isn’t transferable. It’s uphill to the village, I’m sure, you probably got those lost 32 km’s back in regeneration on the return trip.

          10. neight428 Avatar
            neight428

            It’s sad how the car/project optimism filter isn’t transferable. It’s uphill to the village, I’m sure, you probably got those lost 32 km’s back in regeneration on the return trip.

    3. crank_case Avatar
      crank_case

      I prefer Tamiya, but they don’t do much in larger scale..

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      1. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        It was important to us that it could drive on its own power.

        https://i.ibb.co/QJcptxP/Screenshot-20190429-213238-Opera.jpg

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  2. Smaglik Avatar
    Smaglik

    Every frameless windowed car I’ve had provides an internal spray at the car wash, of course they’ve never been younger than a decade.

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    1. salguod Avatar
      salguod

      My 2002 BMW 325Ci has frameless windows and doesn’t leak in car washes. They have that annoying drop when you open it and snug up when closed feature which probably helps. It’s annoying because the passenger side doesn’t work properly and the glass hits the body shell with a very unsettling clank when you close the door.

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      1. Smaglik Avatar
        Smaglik

        Definition of YMMV. The windows in my 2002 M3 do give me a spray. 😁

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      2. gerberbaby Avatar
        gerberbaby

        Funny, my 02 325ci does the same thing on the passenger side only with the hardtop on. Its fine with the soft top, I suppose because theres no trim to run into. I was thinking a guy could move the regulator mount down a bit so that doesnt happen but dont want to pull the card off to try since I mainly drive it in the summer without the hardtop.

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        1. salguod Avatar
          salguod

          Interesting that we all have 2002 E46 2 doors.

          I think my regulator is going bad, common problem in BMWs of the era. It’s also slower than the driver’s side and there’s a pop when the window is about midway down.

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          1. Smaglik Avatar
            Smaglik

            I haven’t had issues with that yet. I only have the leak in the high pressure washes too. It’s really a minor niggle for what can break on an old BMW.

          2. gerberbaby Avatar
            gerberbaby

            My main issue now is increased oil consumption. I have 203 turns on the clock and a mechanic told me thats the time to start looking at a rebuilt head. Bottom ends are usually very durable. So we’ll see now that my manual swap from hell is complete, I guess I’m due for the next project.

    2. outback_ute Avatar
      outback_ute

      I am guessing the Defender here has some years on it, so no surprise a jet wash can beat the seals if sprayed directly on them – they weren’t designed for high pressure water

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      1. Maymar Avatar
        Maymar

        https://media.caradvice.com.au/image/private/c_fill,q_auto,f_auto,w_960,h_500/c90e7bbd370498b88914fd2b0ab28800.jpg

        If I’m not mistaken, it’s a final run Heritage edition, so 3-4 years old.

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    3. Toaster Avatar
      Toaster

      My C6 (Citroen, not Chevy, mind you) is quite waterproof, around 225 km/h the windnoise starts, though.

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  3. nanoop Avatar
    nanoop

    Land Rover? Remove the plugs from the drain holes of the interior, some PO must have closed them with frozen tears or knuckle blood.

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    1. neight428 Avatar
      neight428

      My thought was, they were not so much designed to keep the water out, but rather to have water come in and not have it bother much, apart from the occupants.

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  4. neight428 Avatar
    neight428

    New shoes on the new 4R…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1060dfce9fb28310a44c04ec1feb7091272d4546841a74c665f7266aba58d785.jpg

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    1. Jeff Glucker Avatar
      Jeff Glucker

      Those aren’t TE37s right? Which wheels are those?

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      1. neight428 Avatar
        neight428

        Relations Race Wheels RR2-S – 17×8.5’s, found them through some of the Toyota boards, fairly well recommended and the price was right.

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