An old friend once told me that there are three topics of conversation in which no teenage male will ever admit ignorance: girls, cars, and guns. While that’s probably not literally true, our encyclopedia entry for today involves two of them (hint: neither is “girls”).
Guns and vehicles do seem go together. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, it makes sense: the various parts of an internal combustion engine and the barrel and frame of a firearm require similar manufacturing skills to cast, forge and efficiently machine moving parts that are highly accurate and metallurgically robust enough to deal with extreme stress during operation. A factory that builds one can probably build the other.
So, your task today is to name all the car (truck, motorcycle, scooter, tractor, etc.) manufacturers that have also dabbled in firearms manufacturing. Or vice versa.
Difficulty: “More than a tickle, less than paying your taxes.”
If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding: Read the comments first and don’t post duplicates. Adding photos with standard HTML is good, but shrink the big ones with width="500"
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Image Source: Random web images previously downloaded to my hard drive. Beyond that I have no clue.
The low-hanging fruit:
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And their rivals the Royal Small Arms factory begat both Royal Enfield and the Lee Enfield:
<img src="http://media1.santabanta.com/full5/Bikes/Royal%20Enfield/royal-enfield-4a.jpg" width="600">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Short_Magazine_Lee-Enfield_Mk_1_%281903%29_-_UK_-_cal_303_British_-_Arm%C3%A9museum.jpg/1024px-Short_Magazine_Lee-Enfield_Mk_1_%281903%29_-_UK_-_cal_303_British_-_Arm%C3%A9museum.jpg" width="600">
that might be one of the most beautiful combinations of bikes and arms…….
Skoda and Hotchkiss come to mind, Hotchkiss' badge had two crossed cannons.
<img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dddakey8ZYo/UYDsn-oHCBI/AAAAAAAAdbM/7gejdSnl5gQ/s1600/orig.jpg" width=500>
Buy a new Skoda M1909 Machine Gun, get a free hat!
Or if you'r feeling tough :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0…
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Zbrojovka_Brno_Z18_side.jpg" width=500>
<img src="http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Manufacturers/CZ/Rifles/CZ%20Model%205%20Training%20Rifle/22_0090e.JPG" width=500>
Zbrojovka Brno, a Czechoslovakian Auto maker and gun manufacturer who also made typewriters.
Husqvarna:
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/hammerdown-7/Tradewinds20ad.jpg" width="500">
<img src="http://www.theworldofmotorcycles.com/vintagebike-images/husqvarna_200_twin_1931_sm.jpeg">
I know this isn't really what you were asking for but here you go… (it's a Range Rover Holland and Holland edition)
<img src="http://www.fultonleasing.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/range-rover-overfinch4.jpg" width="600">
Here's what you can get in the interior.
<img src="http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2010/ghij/2010-Holland-And-Holland-Range-Rover-by-Overfinch-Rear-Seating-1920×1440.jpg" width="600">
And here's the earlier p38 version
<img src="http://c7716.r16.cf2.rackcdn.com/RN-Forum/users/Holland01/DSC_0001.jpg" width="600">
liquor, fine crystal ware, where are the fire-arms….???
The Rover was more affordable than the firearm and the owner had to pick.
Well, here you go!
<img src="http://johnnymuk.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/overfinch-rr.jpg" width="600">
Do tanks count as firearms?
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/US_Army_Detroit_Tank_Plant.jpg" width=500>
Thinking along the same lines as you, do artillery shells count?
<img src="http://bunker.combatsim.com/babemeister/TDIWWII/3_8_2013/OldsmobileAd-March1945.jpg" width="500">
Volvo made two attempts at cannon cars. The first one is very rare and had a tendency to fall over backwards when the cannon was fired. This is a later TGB1111A with its cannon mounted:
<img src="http://www.volvo4x4.eu/cars_tech_pic/tgb1111a.jpg" width="600">
The canon itself probably was produced somewhere else though.
While GM never made actual General Motors branded small arms, GM's Inland and Saginaw divisions made a lot of M1 Carbines and the Guide Lamp division made M3 "Grease Gun" sub-machine guns.
Off topic a bit, a surprising variety of companies made M1 carbines including Rock-Ola (jukeboxes), and Underwood and IBM (office machines) in addition to obvious gun makers like Winchester and Harrington & Richardson.
Steyr
<img src="http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Steyr/39-Steyr-55-DV-11-GCP_01.jpg" width="450">
<img src="http://www.floridaarmory.com/image.php?type=P&id=1357" width="450">
Courtesy embed.
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/1936Steyr50Baby.jpg/640px-1936Steyr50Baby.jpg" width="500">
Thanks. I wanted to use that pic since it was -that- car I saw at Lane. We took the basement tour over the break and the guide explained the connection.
I have been meaning to post my Lane pictures here since I was there
last summereighteen months ago.Steyr was going to be my contribution… you beat me to it by many hours….
BTW, a Steyr M9-A1 is on my firearms bucket list.
This one is a stretch, but I'm going for it anyway…
This is the Saab Bofors Dynamics CBJ-MS, a submachine gun produced in Sweden starting in the early 2000s:
<img width=600 src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/650cbj_ms.jpg">
Saab Bofors Dynamics is part of Saab Group, which from 1947-1990 was the parent company of Saab Automobile. Now they focus on aircraft and weapons systems.
So, Saab Automobile's former parent now produces the Saab Bofors CBJ-MS.
Now surely that could have kept the administrators at bay?
As would this Bofors: <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/40mm-twin-naval.jpg/800px-40mm-twin-naval.jpg" width=600>
The Izhevsk Machinebuilding Plant, makers of the AK-47:
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/AK-47_type_II_Part_DM-ST-89-01131.jpg/1280px-AK-47_type_II_Part_DM-ST-89-01131.jpg" width="500">
And various cars like the Oda:
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Izh_2126.jpg" width="500">
…the various parts of an internal combustion engine and the barrel and frame of a firearm require similar manufacturing skills to cast, forge and efficiently machine moving parts that are highly accurate and metallurgically robust enough to deal with extreme stress during operation
An Oda to Russian manufacturing!
Ladamino i.e. Izh 27175 is also on of their products:
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/IZH-27175.JPG/800px-IZH-27175.JPG" width="666">
And bikes some with side cars, some without
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/%D0%98%D0%96_%D0%AE%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_4.jpg" width="558">
"One of these is reliable, but neither of them are accurate."
The FP-45 Liberator was manufactured by a division of GM. (Manufacturing under government contract during WW2 isn't quite in the spirit of the question, and the division of GM that actually manufactured them wasn't a division that built vehicles.)
<img src="http://www.p38guns.com/FP45.jpg" width="500/">
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/qaUGg.jpg" width="600">
I understand Ruger has also produced firearms.
I never knew Ruger made cars.
<img src="http://new4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Wow+really+that+big+psh+_2e2a7d171496ea9f8755772da6b15cdb.gif">
Two prototypes, but the attempt at mass production didn't pan out. Here's one of them:
<img src="http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj517/Ruger1168/RugerSpecial1.jpg" width="450">
http://www.jsasoc.com/Family_archive/Archive/barl…
The British sportscar manufacturer also developed and producted hydraulic gun turrets.
BSA
Sorry for the duplicate. Comments didn't show on my phone…
The Mauser Einspurauto, later known as the Monotrace:
<img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8262/15189200304_c262a76308.jpg" width="500">
Experiencing cognitive dissonance.
Hongdu Aviation Industry (Group): Nanchang Q-5 (MIG 19 copy)
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Nanchang_Q-5.jpg/800px-Nanchang_Q-5.jpg" width="666">
and Chang Jiang Cj750 bike, soviet Dnepr M-72 copy which in fact was basically 1938 BMW R71:
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Cj750_motorcycle.jpg">
..aand supersonic attack aircraft is not an firearm, sorry about that. Slim pickings today.
i guess it kind of depends on the pilot's end mission…… but in general, i agree with you.
It is a convoluted stretch for sure, but Messerschmitt …
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Messerschmitt_Kabinenroller.jpg" width="500">
… is related to Krupp
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/War_Museum_Athens_-_Krupp_slow_fire_gun_-_6762.jpg" width="500">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Benelli_250_Sport_Special.jpg/800px-Benelli_250_Sport_Special.jpg" width="666">
and
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Benelli_M3_Super_90.jpg">
Both Benelli, but co. separated long before these.
Aren't those shotguns super expensive?
They're definitely high-end guns, but they're not ridiculous. They're sort of the Maserati Ghibli of the gun world.
But with more reliability.
And durability.
And less depreciation.
And less…um…Chrysler.
…maybe we should forget that analogy after all.
Gotcha. I'm not a gun person (as in I don't own any and didn't grow up shooting them or around them), but when I visit my uncle in NH I always ask to pop off a few rounds… We can shoot right off his back deck, haha.
He mostly has handguns but this past holiday season I was up there and we shot his Mossberg. It has a bunch of extra "tactical" shit on it, so it feels like something a SWAT team would use. It's awesome and I want one.
I love my Weatherby PA-459. Around the same price range as a Mossberg.
<img src="http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/092913_180.jpg" width="500">
you live in the wrong city to not own *a* gun…… i don't know what it takes to get whatever type of permit in CA, but… i'd definitely own a gun for home protection out there…. I live in indiana…i don't currently own a gun… but we have a lot of CC freedom out here… i guess i rely on other's to protect me at the moment…. but I also don't have to protect my property… private security service and all…. i have mixed views… don't want to get in to debate…
This is a test of the emergency broadcast system:
What you were talking about:
<img src="http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt237/jskitter/hooniverse/546b3c8acb8eb_-_maserghiblisq4_cdauto_5414_17-lg_zpsca005c92.jpg" width=500>
What other hoons were thinking about:
<img src="http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt237/jskitter/hooniverse/1970-Ghibli-Spyder_zpsfe0fb6ca.png">
What I was thinking about:
<img src="http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt237/jskitter/hooniverse/ghibli_open_cup_zpsf7db26f2.jpg" width=500>
This was only a test.
What my friends think I was talking about.
<img src="http://tanshanomi.com/temp/ghibli-helmet.png">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/RK_62_76.jpg" width="666">
Valmet M76. Valmet, Finnish machinery co., has also Automotive division which have built Porsches, Fisker Karmas, Saabs etc.
Also, tractors:
<img src="http://www.findit.fi/finImg/0599.JPG">
Moto Morini? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_Morini
"(during WWII) Moto Morini was converted to produce aeronautical components. In 1943 the factory was bombed."
Fiat built several machine guns (to say nothing of tanks and bombers) over the years.
<img src="http://www.montecassino1944.it/ultimarr21.jpg" width="600">
<img src="http://www.cornellpubs.com/Images4/fiat-1935.jpg" width="600">
The China South Industries Group Corporation, they make guns.
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/QCQ05.jpg" width="500">
They also own Chang'an Motors.
<img src="http://www.carnewschina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/changan-eado-xt-china-1-458×289.jpg?109b36">
Mahindra has trucks, bikes, scooters, armored vehicles….and plans to start production of 155mm guns (FH77B) in India soon.
<img src="http://www.mahindraracing.com/images/our-bikes/moto3-bike.png">
In 1948, Piero Beretta (president of the famous Beretta company) together with his friends Count Luigi Castelbarco, a well known racing driver of the day, and Giuseppe Benelli, the boss of the Benelli motorcycle company (who at the time also made weapons), built a small FWD car powered by a motorcycle-derived V-twin, called the BBC (Beretta, Benelli, Castelbarco). It never entered serial production, with only three prototypes being built.
<img src="http://www.velocetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BBC-5451.jpg" width="600">
In 1959, Enzo Ferrari (who thought that Beretta was still interested in entering the small-car market) built a prototype with the idea of selling the project to him. The car was a rather conventional sedan, except for one thing : it had a badge showing a machine gun (how cool is that ?). This one also remained a one-off.
<img src="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/attachments/other-italian-cars/107058d1214398540-asa-1000gt-pininfarina-ferrarina-tipo-850.jpg" width="600">
<img src="http://www.velocetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ferrarina-badge-1431.jpg" width="300">
Well Beretta got his name on a mass produced car.
<img src="http://www.timdineen.com/photos/BERETTA/beretta03.jpg" width="600">
And yet Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta SpA was not entirely appreciative of the gesture.
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-02-23/business/f…
So did Samuel Colt
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Dodge-Colt-front.jpg"width=500>
Thanks to you, I dreamt about a Beretta last night.
Specifically, I dreamed that my wife was driving a black beater Beretta with a temporary spare on the right rear. In my dream, it belonged to a friend of ours, who was riding in the passenger seat. She jumped it off an inclined driveway onto the road, and got so much air that the transmission and differential* dropped out and caused it to flip. I was driving behind her in the Town Cow. I yelled "HOLY SH—"
Then I woke up.
*yes, differential. In my dream, it was a RWD car.
Mitsubishi
<img src="http://www.enemyforces.net/tanks/type90.jpg" width="600">
Also, Chrysler (the M1 Abrams originated at Chrysler Defense before that division was sold off in the '80s)
<img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/DF-SC-82-07237.jpg/640px-DF-SC-82-07237.jpg" width="500">
Zastava.
<img src="http://www.autosoviet.altervista.org/std_1978_zastava_1100_super.jpg" width="600">
<img src="http://www.zastava-arms.rs/sites/default/files/m88_standard.png" width="600">
Fabrique Nationale de Herstal, one of Belgium's first car makers
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/FN_1625cc_Cabriolet%2C_Schaffen_Diest_Fly-Drive_2013.JPG/300px-FN_1625cc_Cabriolet%2C_Schaffen_Diest_Fly-Drive_2013.JPG">
A pioneer maker of four cylinder motorcycles
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Fn-1913.jpg/220px-Fn-1913.jpg">
and some the world's finest machine guns
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/MAG-latrun-exhibition-1.jpg/300px-MAG-latrun-exhibition-1.jpg">
John Browning's last pistol design
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Browning_HP_West_German_Police.jpg/300px-Browning_HP_West_German_Police.jpg">
plus the current US Army M4 carbine contract
Came here surprised nobody had mentioned "…Belgium's longest-lived make of car…" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_%28automobile%29 ), leaving satisfied.
<img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KdmTS7OLK-A/UgazmtTL8YI/AAAAAAAAHsw/GyfU3ul-CTM/s1600/Colt.jpg" width="500/">
Something special:
<img src="http://m0.i.pbase.com/o2/58/560858/1/103510660.JGqYxPFb.PBIMG_1384.jpg" width="500/">
You don't think it's possible they named it after a small horse, maybe?
I recently learned that the astute Gov. Rick Perry of my home state of Texas, in order to stimulate the state economy, encouraged Jesse James to come to Texas and start a firearms factory in Austin. So we have a chopper maker making a chopper of a different nature.
<img src="http://blog.mlive.com/naias/2008/01/large_Jesse%20James%20crop.jpg" width="600">
<img src="https://31.media.tumblr.com/31c1038582240b8c1e10db2e0976fa0b/tumblr_inline_n0zyv6fVpG1sy7y4j.jpg" width="600">
<img src="http://www.momoneypawn.com/sites/default/files/dsc_0145_3.jpg" width="600">
What an ugly, overstyled piece of crap. I don't like the gun, either.
I only have one thumb to give, but this comment deserves so much more. So here are 4 fingers up as well!!
<img src="http://www.jsrpages.co.uk/scansb/bullock/sandra-bullock-27%20(1).jpg" width="400/">
International Harvester made M1 Garand rifles during the Korean War and later. http://www.fulton-armory.com/%5Cfaqs%5CM1G-FAQs%5…
Giugiaro Designs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgetto_Giugiaro#m…
and
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LC Smith made some outstanding shotguns, and typewriters. Their old HQ building is still standing in Seattle WA. Singer made some guns instead of sewing machines during WWII, and along with International Harvester, I believe those guns were M1Garands.
Hispano Suiza made cars until the late 1930s and also produced the 20mm cannon found in British fighter aircraft like the Hawker Typhoon.
<img src="http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/1931-1938-hispano-suiza-j12-1.jpg" />
<img src="http://christophe.arribat.pagesperso-orange.fr/stoftyphoon.jpg" />
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