Encyclopedia Hoonatica: Makers of Vehicles and Firearms


An old friend once told me that there are three topics of conversation in which no teenage male will ever admit ignorance: girls, cars, and guns. While that’s probably not literally true, our encyclopedia entry for today involves two of them (hint: neither is “girls”).
Guns and vehicles do seem go together. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, it makes sense: the various parts of an internal combustion engine and the barrel and frame of a firearm require similar manufacturing skills to cast, forge and efficiently machine moving parts that are highly accurate and metallurgically robust enough to deal with extreme stress during operation. A factory that builds one can probably build the other.
So, your task today is to name all the car (truck, motorcycle, scooter, tractor, etc.) manufacturers that have also dabbled in firearms manufacturing. Or vice versa.

Difficulty: “More than a tickle, less than paying your taxes.”
If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding: Read the comments first and don’t post duplicates. Adding photos with standard HTML is good, but shrink the big ones with width="500".
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      1. chrystlubitshi Avatar

        that might be one of the most beautiful combinations of bikes and arms…….

  1. Sid Troon Avatar
    Sid Troon

    Skoda and Hotchkiss come to mind, Hotchkiss' badge had two crossed cannons.

    1. PotbellyJoe ★★★★★ Avatar
      PotbellyJoe ★★★★★

      <img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dddakey8ZYo/UYDsn-oHCBI/AAAAAAAAdbM/7gejdSnl5gQ/s1600/orig.jpg&quot; width=500>
      Buy a new Skoda M1909 Machine Gun, get a free hat!

      1. TIMMY25 Avatar

        Or if you'r feeling tough :

  2. PotbellyJoe ★★★★★ Avatar
    PotbellyJoe ★★★★★

    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Zbrojovka_Brno_Z18_side.jpg&quot; width=500>
    <img src="http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Manufacturers/CZ/Rifles/CZ%20Model%205%20Training%20Rifle/22_0090e.JPG&quot; width=500>
    Zbrojovka Brno, a Czechoslovakian Auto maker and gun manufacturer who also made typewriters.

  3. ellande Avatar

    I know this isn't really what you were asking for but here you go… (it's a Range Rover Holland and Holland edition)
    <img src="http://www.fultonleasing.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/range-rover-overfinch4.jpg&quot; width="600">
    Here's what you can get in the interior.
    <img src="http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2010/ghij/2010-Holland-And-Holland-Range-Rover-by-Overfinch-Rear-Seating-1920×1440.jpg&quot; width="600">
    And here's the earlier p38 version
    <img src="http://c7716.r16.cf2.rackcdn.com/RN-Forum/users/Holland01/DSC_0001.jpg&quot; width="600">

    1. chrystlubitshi Avatar

      liquor, fine crystal ware, where are the fire-arms….???

      1. pj134 Avatar

        The Rover was more affordable than the firearm and the owner had to pick.

      2. ellande Avatar

        Well, here you go!
        <img src="http://johnnymuk.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/overfinch-rr.jpg&quot; width="600">

  4. OA5599 Avatar
    1. Prince Halibrand Avatar
      Prince Halibrand

      Thinking along the same lines as you, do artillery shells count?
      <img src="http://bunker.combatsim.com/babemeister/TDIWWII/3_8_2013/OldsmobileAd-March1945.jpg&quot; width="500">

      1. Sjalabais Avatar

        Volvo made two attempts at cannon cars. The first one is very rare and had a tendency to fall over backwards when the cannon was fired. This is a later TGB1111A with its cannon mounted:
        <img src="http://www.volvo4x4.eu/cars_tech_pic/tgb1111a.jpg&quot; width="600">
        The canon itself probably was produced somewhere else though.

      2. Slow_Joe_Crow Avatar

        While GM never made actual General Motors branded small arms, GM's Inland and Saginaw divisions made a lot of M1 Carbines and the Guide Lamp division made M3 "Grease Gun" sub-machine guns.
        Off topic a bit, a surprising variety of companies made M1 carbines including Rock-Ola (jukeboxes), and Underwood and IBM (office machines) in addition to obvious gun makers like Winchester and Harrington & Richardson.

      1. JayP2112 Avatar

        Thanks. I wanted to use that pic since it was -that- car I saw at Lane. We took the basement tour over the break and the guide explained the connection.

        1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar
          Peter Tanshanomi

          I have been meaning to post my Lane pictures here since I was there last summer eighteen months ago.

      2. chrystlubitshi Avatar

        Steyr was going to be my contribution… you beat me to it by many hours….

    1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar
      Peter Tanshanomi

      BTW, a Steyr M9-A1 is on my firearms bucket list.

  5. engineerd™ Avatar

    This one is a stretch, but I'm going for it anyway…
    This is the Saab Bofors Dynamics CBJ-MS, a submachine gun produced in Sweden starting in the early 2000s:
    <img width=600 src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/650cbj_ms.jpg"&gt;
    Saab Bofors Dynamics is part of Saab Group, which from 1947-1990 was the parent company of Saab Automobile. Now they focus on aircraft and weapons systems.
    So, Saab Automobile's former parent now produces the Saab Bofors CBJ-MS.

    1. Rover_1 Avatar

      Now surely that could have kept the administrators at bay?

  6. Devin Avatar

    The Izhevsk Machinebuilding Plant, makers of the AK-47:
    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/AK-47_type_II_Part_DM-ST-89-01131.jpg/1280px-AK-47_type_II_Part_DM-ST-89-01131.jpg&quot; width="500">
    And various cars like the Oda:
    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Izh_2126.jpg&quot; width="500">

    1. Sjalabais Avatar

      …the various parts of an internal combustion engine and the barrel and frame of a firearm require similar manufacturing skills to cast, forge and efficiently machine moving parts that are highly accurate and metallurgically robust enough to deal with extreme stress during operation
      An Oda to Russian manufacturing!

    2. Manic_King Avatar

      Ladamino i.e. Izh 27175 is also on of their products:
      <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/IZH-27175.JPG/800px-IZH-27175.JPG&quot; width="666">

      1. Manic_King Avatar

        And bikes some with side cars, some without
        <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/%D0%98%D0%96_%D0%AE%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_4.jpg&quot; width="558">

    3. BlackIce_GTS Avatar

      "One of these is reliable, but neither of them are accurate."

  7. smalleyxb122 Avatar

    The FP-45 Liberator was manufactured by a division of GM. (Manufacturing under government contract during WW2 isn't quite in the spirit of the question, and the division of GM that actually manufactured them wasn't a division that built vehicles.)
    <img src="http://www.p38guns.com/FP45.jpg&quot; width="500/">

  8. mdharrell Avatar

    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/qaUGg.jpg&quot; width="600">
    I understand Ruger has also produced firearms.

      1. mdharrell Avatar

        Two prototypes, but the attempt at mass production didn't pan out. Here's one of them:
        <img src="http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj517/Ruger1168/RugerSpecial1.jpg&quot; width="450">

  9. Alff Avatar

    The British sportscar manufacturer also developed and producted hydraulic gun turrets.

  10. acesfull Avatar


  11. acesfull Avatar

    Sorry for the duplicate. Comments didn't show on my phone…

  12. mdharrell Avatar

    The Mauser Einspurauto, later known as the Monotrace:
    <img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8262/15189200304_c262a76308.jpg&quot; width="500">

    1. Alff Avatar

      Experiencing cognitive dissonance.

  13. Manic_King Avatar

    Hongdu Aviation Industry (Group): Nanchang Q-5 (MIG 19 copy)
    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Nanchang_Q-5.jpg/800px-Nanchang_Q-5.jpg&quot; width="666">
    and Chang Jiang Cj750 bike, soviet Dnepr M-72 copy which in fact was basically 1938 BMW R71:
    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Cj750_motorcycle.jpg"&gt;

    1. Manic_King Avatar

      ..aand supersonic attack aircraft is not an firearm, sorry about that. Slim pickings today.

      1. chrystlubitshi Avatar

        i guess it kind of depends on the pilot's end mission…… but in general, i agree with you.

    1. Jeff Glucker Avatar
      Jeff Glucker

      Aren't those shotguns super expensive?

      1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar
        Peter Tanshanomi

        They're definitely high-end guns, but they're not ridiculous. They're sort of the Maserati Ghibli of the gun world.
        But with more reliability.
        And durability.
        And less depreciation.
        And less…um…Chrysler.
        …maybe we should forget that analogy after all.

        1. Jeff Glucker Avatar
          Jeff Glucker

          Gotcha. I'm not a gun person (as in I don't own any and didn't grow up shooting them or around them), but when I visit my uncle in NH I always ask to pop off a few rounds… We can shoot right off his back deck, haha.
          He mostly has handguns but this past holiday season I was up there and we shot his Mossberg. It has a bunch of extra "tactical" shit on it, so it feels like something a SWAT team would use. It's awesome and I want one.

          1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar
            Peter Tanshanomi

            I love my Weatherby PA-459. Around the same price range as a Mossberg.
            <img src="http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/092913_180.jpg&quot; width="500">

          2. chrystlubitshi Avatar

            you live in the wrong city to not own *a* gun…… i don't know what it takes to get whatever type of permit in CA, but… i'd definitely own a gun for home protection out there…. I live in indiana…i don't currently own a gun… but we have a lot of CC freedom out here… i guess i rely on other's to protect me at the moment…. but I also don't have to protect my property… private security service and all…. i have mixed views… don't want to get in to debate…

          1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar
            Peter Tanshanomi

            What my friends think I was talking about.
            <img src="http://tanshanomi.com/temp/ghibli-helmet.png"&gt;

  14. Manic_King Avatar

    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/RK_62_76.jpg&quot; width="666">
    Valmet M76. Valmet, Finnish machinery co., has also Automotive division which have built Porsches, Fisker Karmas, Saabs etc.

    1. Manic_King Avatar

      Also, tractors:
      <img src="http://www.findit.fi/finImg/0599.JPG"&gt;

  15. Manic_King Avatar

    Moto Morini? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_Morini
    "(during WWII) Moto Morini was converted to produce aeronautical components. In 1943 the factory was bombed."

  16. mike Avatar

    Fiat built several machine guns (to say nothing of tanks and bombers) over the years.
    <img src="http://www.montecassino1944.it/ultimarr21.jpg&quot; width="600">
    <img src="http://www.cornellpubs.com/Images4/fiat-1935.jpg&quot; width="600">

  17. Devin Avatar

    The China South Industries Group Corporation, they make guns.
    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/QCQ05.jpg&quot; width="500">
    They also own Chang'an Motors.
    <img src="http://www.carnewschina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/changan-eado-xt-china-1-458×289.jpg?109b36"&gt;

  18. Manic_King Avatar

    Mahindra has trucks, bikes, scooters, armored vehicles….and plans to start production of 155mm guns (FH77B) in India soon.
    <img src="http://www.mahindraracing.com/images/our-bikes/moto3-bike.png"&gt;

  19. mike Avatar

    In 1948, Piero Beretta (president of the famous Beretta company) together with his friends Count Luigi Castelbarco, a well known racing driver of the day, and Giuseppe Benelli, the boss of the Benelli motorcycle company (who at the time also made weapons), built a small FWD car powered by a motorcycle-derived V-twin, called the BBC (Beretta, Benelli, Castelbarco). It never entered serial production, with only three prototypes being built.
    <img src="http://www.velocetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BBC-5451.jpg&quot; width="600">
    In 1959, Enzo Ferrari (who thought that Beretta was still interested in entering the small-car market) built a prototype with the idea of selling the project to him. The car was a rather conventional sedan, except for one thing : it had a badge showing a machine gun (how cool is that ?). This one also remained a one-off.
    <img src="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/attachments/other-italian-cars/107058d1214398540-asa-1000gt-pininfarina-ferrarina-tipo-850.jpg&quot; width="600">
    <img src="http://www.velocetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ferrarina-badge-1431.jpg&quot; width="300">

    1. BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ Avatar

      Well Beretta got his name on a mass produced car.
      <img src="http://www.timdineen.com/photos/BERETTA/beretta03.jpg&quot; width="600">

      1. mdharrell Avatar

        And yet Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta SpA was not entirely appreciative of the gesture.

      2. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar
        Peter Tanshanomi

        Thanks to you, I dreamt about a Beretta last night.
        Specifically, I dreamed that my wife was driving a black beater Beretta with a temporary spare on the right rear. In my dream, it belonged to a friend of ours, who was riding in the passenger seat. She jumped it off an inclined driveway onto the road, and got so much air that the transmission and differential* dropped out and caused it to flip. I was driving behind her in the Town Cow. I yelled "HOLY SH—"
        Then I woke up.
        *yes, differential. In my dream, it was a RWD car.

  20. XRSevin Avatar

    <img src="http://www.enemyforces.net/tanks/type90.jpg&quot; width="600">

    1. ptschett Avatar

      Also, Chrysler (the M1 Abrams originated at Chrysler Defense before that division was sold off in the '80s)
      <img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/DF-SC-82-07237.jpg/640px-DF-SC-82-07237.jpg&quot; width="500">

    1. Vairship Avatar

      Came here surprised nobody had mentioned "…Belgium's longest-lived make of car…" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_%28automobile%29 ), leaving satisfied.

    1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar
      Peter Tanshanomi

      You don't think it's possible they named it after a small horse, maybe?

  21. mac350 Avatar

    I recently learned that the astute Gov. Rick Perry of my home state of Texas, in order to stimulate the state economy, encouraged Jesse James to come to Texas and start a firearms factory in Austin. So we have a chopper maker making a chopper of a different nature.
    <img src="http://blog.mlive.com/naias/2008/01/large_Jesse%20James%20crop.jpg&quot; width="600">
    <img src="https://31.media.tumblr.com/31c1038582240b8c1e10db2e0976fa0b/tumblr_inline_n0zyv6fVpG1sy7y4j.jpg&quot; width="600">
    <img src="http://www.momoneypawn.com/sites/default/files/dsc_0145_3.jpg&quot; width="600">

    1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar
      Peter Tanshanomi

      What an ugly, overstyled piece of crap. I don't like the gun, either.

      1. HycoSpeed Avatar

        I only have one thumb to give, but this comment deserves so much more. So here are 4 fingers up as well!!
        <img src="http://www.jsrpages.co.uk/scansb/bullock/sandra-bullock-27%20(1).jpg" width="400/">

  22. ptschett Avatar

    International Harvester made M1 Garand rifles during the Korean War and later. http://www.fulton-armory.com/%5Cfaqs%5CM1G-FAQs%5

  23. manicgt Avatar

    Giugiaro Designs
    <a href="http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2 Fwww.beretta.com%2Fassets%2F0%2F15%2FDimGalleryLarge%2Fcx4storm_zoom002.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beretta.com%2Fen-us%2Fcx4-storm%2F&h=256&w=840&tbnid=NBAyKo0AYRXrLM%3A&zoom=1&docid=iQt7AVLf6NJJBM&ei=pFmrVPCgDIbxoASp_YCwCg&tbm=isch&ved=0CDIQMygAMAA&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=696&page=1&start=0&ndsp=7″ target=”_blank”>http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2 <…” target=”_blank”>Fwww.beretta.com%2Fassets%2F0%2F15%2FDimGalleryLarge%2Fcx4storm_zoom002.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beretta.com%2Fen-us%2Fcx4-storm%2F&h=256&w=840&tbnid=NBAyKo0AYRXrLM%3A&zoom=1&docid=iQt7AVLf6NJJBM&ei=pFmrVPCgDIbxoASp_YCwCg&tbm=isch&ved=0CDIQMygAMAA&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=696&page=1&start=0&ndsp=7

  24. Ken C. Avatar
    Ken C.

    LC Smith made some outstanding shotguns, and typewriters. Their old HQ building is still standing in Seattle WA. Singer made some guns instead of sewing machines during WWII, and along with International Harvester, I believe those guns were M1Garands.

  25. Naengmyeon Avatar

    Hispano Suiza made cars until the late 1930s and also produced the 20mm cannon found in British fighter aircraft like the Hawker Typhoon.
    <img src="http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/1931-1938-hispano-suiza-j12-1.jpg&quot; />
    <img src="http://christophe.arribat.pagesperso-orange.fr/stoftyphoon.jpg&quot; />

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