By Jim Brennan
Welcome to another edition of Truck Thursday, and I will NOT be doing a marathon edition of Truck Thursday because the weather cleared here, and I have to get some work done…..
But that doesn’t mean I can ignore actually writing a Truck Thursday Posting. We received this juicy tip from jeepy jayhawk (Thanks, Man!) about this particularly interesting 1952 Ford F-600 Cabover, that has been tweaked!
According to the listing:
1952 Ford F-600 ; 2-ton with flatbed ; bed is 7 ft. 4 in. by 15 ft. with PTO hydraulic hoist that works great ; 302 V-8 ; power windows ; power steering ; 4-speed with 2-speed rear axle ; bucket seats ; tilt steering wheel ;radial tires 60 % or better ; all the glass is good except driver’s side it has a crack but still in good condition ; truck is in excellant condition and is 95 % rust free
Now, part of me hates the resto-mod movement (that is dropping a modern power-train into a stock looking vintage vehicle), but I can’t deny the advantages of a modern V-8, or the convenience of having power accessories, but if you’re going to do a build this way, why not spring for the A/C? Anyway, this truck is being offered at $6,500. See the listing here.
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Jeff Glucker
I much prefer the example given.
These old COE trucks are so odd-looking and cool at the same time. To me, the '38-'39 Ford COEs with the oval grille are the most desirable of all.
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Dead sexy. I saw a similar model (without the equipment in the back) hotrodded and dropped about fifteen years ago at a show'n'shine in Chilliwack beside two other COEs, Proper ugly trucks(tm) in the best sense of the term.
Do want. The 'example given is very nice too.
I like it, but if you are going to resto-mod, thrown in A/C for Christ sake.
I believe these came standard with the old "2-55" air conditioning. Shouldn't be too hard to make functional.
Neat old truck. From what the ad says, all they really did with the mods is make it easier to live with. I don't really need that much truck, but I still wouldn't mind having this.
Oh hi Clyde!
A moving van version of this truck was part of my childhood. His name was Clyde. Despite the fact he would catch on fire once in a while he was a cool old truck.
BTW here is what this truck could be with some fabbing, chassis stretching and an F-1 cab or two laying around:
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Now, that's a car hauler. Do you have any pictures of Clyde?
I wish, Clyde went to the junkyard in the sky back in 1989 or 90. Shame too, that old truck had so much potential.
Ooh! I want to see one in real life; I bet they are bigger than their smoothed-over-rampside-Econoline shape suggests.
I've this image saved to my computer. I am still in love; they are like the Bettys of the auto world. Albeit a very big, muscular Betty who's more capable than you'll ever be and can outdrink you with ease, but anywho…
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These COE trucks are quite tall. Both the featured Ford and the Chevy you pictured use the basic pickup cab and doors, so you get an idea of how high these things sit. Here's the standard Chevy pickup for comparison.
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Judging from these two photos, it looks to be about a foot taller. It also seems like they'd also had to cut the doors to fit the front wheel arches if they were using the same ones from the standard one.
Thanks for the info, Tonyola! Honestly, you're a walking car encyclopedia.
Also to give you some perspective the red car hauler I have pictured above has the cab of a 52 F-1 grafted onto the back of it along with the doors to create a crew cab.
I've seen several COE car haulers at car shows, but I've never seen a double-decker like this '38 Ford.
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WOW!!!!!!!! That's absolutely awesome!!!
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Power Windows? DAYUM!
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Don't forget that this truck would originally had maybe 130 hp maximum. A 302 would work just fine.
coyote is a modern power plant. 302 is older than I am and I ain't no spring chicken.
302? Hmm. Diesel. Needs diesel.
Hot-rodded Powerstroke 7.3 FTW.
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It's got enough gearing with the two speed rear end and the four speed that the 302 probably is adequate.
It needs either 7.3 Power Stroke, or a 460. But a 302? No.
Nice truck. Nicer unrestored. Get it working. Then use it to haul some stuff. If you think you ought to wax it, it's time to sell it.
Maybe I'm too young to understand(born in 1981) but what was the reason behind cab-over trucks in the 1930s, 40s, and 50's? Wouldn't standard cabs (with conventional engine access) have worked just as well for medium-duty trucks, like the '51 Chevy at the link below?
http://www.tripacer.org/truck/index.html
Cab-over-engine trucks offer better visibility and maneuverability since the wheelbase can be shorter. It's the same reason why you see mostly cab-overs in more condensed settings like Cities.
Truck length limits played a big part. If you can save three feet by putting the cab over the engine, then you can build in three more feet of length in the payload area, and increase the amount of cargo capacity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cab_over
Bingo.
The higher seating position also aids visibility and keeps you above headlights.
It all had to do with overall length limits- I think it was 65 ft total with two trailers and 55ft with one. That meant with two twenty-eight foot trailers and the converter gear that connects them you only had about five feet to work with for the tractor, so COE's (almost always w/o sleepers) were mandatory. A single forty-five foot trailer allowed ten feet for the tractor, so this allowed for a Conventional tractor and a sleeper. Management favored the Doubles, because this allowed for 56 ft. of deck space vs. the 45 ft. of a single long trailer. Drivers on the other hand favored the Conv/Single combo for numerous reasons; They ride nicer because you're in between the axles, instead of right over the steer-axle, They're more user-friendly, because you get in/out by climbing on, not straight up a ladder (Try that with a pack, clipboard, ice-chest and lunch-box!), Tipping the Cab to check the engine is a royal pain, especially when you hear that one loose thing you forgot vault up and hit the windshield, Plus pulling one trailer is more than twice as as easy as pulling two. Gawd, I could go on forever about how lame Cab-Overs are……
That being said, I drove a KW K100 COE for 10+ years, and I loved that Truck.