Hooniverse Parting Shot: The Chrysler PT Cruiser – Its Almost Dead!

A PT Cruiser Convertible. Sexual Stereotype Comments in 3 – 2 – 1….

Introduced at the start of the decade, the PT Cruiser was originally conceived as a Plymouth model based on the well-received Pronto Cruiser concept version, but then elevated to a Chrysler when it became apparent that the Plymouth brand was going to be euthanized. As one of the vehicles that ushered in the retro-based styling craze along with the New Beetle, initially it caught on in a big way with the fashionistas who had to have the car du jour, the Hollywood Elite, and the car customizers. But over its production lifespan it turned into a bad joke in the eyes of many. Was it really as bad as nearly everyone said it was?

The Plymouth Pronto Cruiser Concept

The PT Cruiser went on sale during the spring of 2000. The designer responsible for the retro-themed wagon is Bryan Nesbitt (who was recently relieved of his duties at Cadillac). The design is loosely based on historic Chrysler and Plymouth vehicles built during the 30’s and 40’s, with “pontoon” fenders, upright grill, and a basically retro silhouette. Built using components from the then-new Neon (including drive-train and floor-pan) it was a way of producing a new type of vehicle without a great deal of investment. The PT Cruiser team was charged to come up with a way of producing this car profitably with as little as 25,000 units produced annually.
A Wood Paneled Cruiser. Actually, I liked it.

Demand was so phenomenal for the first couple of years that Chrysler’s assembly plant in Toluca, Mexico could not keep pace. Dealers were swamped with orders, and there were waiting lists for certain models and colors. Added dealer markups of several thousand dollars were not uncommon. It was one of the most successful car launches in Chrysler’s history. A second assembly plant in Graz, Austria was quickly set up to supply the European market.
One of the Many Special Edition Street Cruisers.

Major changes to the venerable PT Cruiser were few and far between. A more powerful turbocharged engine was introduced in 2003 with 215-horsepower on tap–there were two turbocharged engines available for a few years–and there were the annual special editions, typically introduced before the Woodward Avenue Dream Cruise each year in August. In 2005, a convertible version was finally introduced but with its integrated roll bar and unattractive top it was not as well-received as the original wagon. The final refresh happened during the 2006 model year with a couple of minor cosmetic changes to the outside and a revamp of the instrument cluster inside. Otherwise, during it’s nearly decade long run, it remained practically the same.
This is a nice shot, don't you think?

According to Chrysler, nearly 1.4 million PT Cruisers were produced. Remember, this car was given the green light after the team of planners, engineers, and designers concluded that a profit could be made with a production of 25,000 per year. For the 2008 model year, Chrysler moved over 50,000 units according to Automotive News. Even with the ever-increasing rebates, these cars made money for the company.
The Haphazzard Dash. Still, it's better than the Caliber, or the Sebring!

So how did these cars go from hot-selling media darling to the butt of jokes within a period of a decade? For one, they were never really improved over their life span. They started with economy-car furnishings and a few unique features and never changed. There was no room for a proper V-6, which would have alleviated the lack of power, at least in the base version. The demographics of the people who bought these cars grew older over the car’s lifespan and there was increased competition in the form of the Honda Element, Scion xB, and even GM’s answer to the PT Cruiser, the Chevrolet HHR designed by none other than Bryan Nesbitt. To further compound its deficiencies, the PT Cruiser never did as well in fuel economy as the competitors, lacked important safety features like side curtain airbags, and reliability ratings began to suffer.
This picture defies logic…..

The Chrysler PT Cruiser is many things. It’s a different design paradigm offered at the beginning of this century that set the tone for retro styling. Over its lifespan it was relatively inexpensive to purchase and maintain as well as being quite utilitarian because of its wagon form, and it helped Chrysler produce more profitable trucks because this vehicle is classified as a truck for CAFE purposes, maintaining their fleet average high enough so as not to incur any penalties. However, its handling is appalling, its turning radius is absurd, and the ergonomics within the cabin are nothing less than haphazard. The PT Cruiser was a good idea that overstayed its welcome. Read more of my Recently Deceased and Retrospective features at Automotive Traveler.

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  1. Juliet C. Avatar
    Juliet C.

    The Enterprise rent-a-car lot near me always has a couple of these for sale with low miles really, really cheap. I have to admit I've been tempted…

  2. $kaycog Avatar

    PT Cruisers just don't "do it" for me, but I don't hate them. Several years ago, there was a gathering of them here, and there were some real ugly customs. I do like what was done to this one though. It has a 500hp Viper engine.
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    1. CptSevere Avatar

      Whoa. Never heard of such a thing, and you'd never know by looking at it. I'll bet it will give you a thrill on those snowpacked streets.

      1. tempesjo Avatar

        Hey mzs.
        Sorry to hear about your dad, but I'm glad he was close to the hospital and that he's on the mend.
        I see you're posting your weight in your comments. What's your target?
        Things are a little exciting in Madison. Our new governor is trying to dismantle the unions, and the republican legislators control both houses so on paper it would be easy to accomplish. But there have been some huge rallies on the Capitol square for the past three days, with the schools being closed because the teachers are calling in sick and coming to protest. And the Democrat senators didn't show up to vote today, and the republicans have called the police to round up the dems to make them come to vote (I guess there's not a quorum without the dems). It's pretty cool to see people united like that.

        1. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
          mr. mzs zsm msz esq

          I replied to you up top. But about that patient natural slow shoveling of sidewalks you referred to: When I walk Max, anytime he does his business on a sidewalk that was not shoveled, I have this urge to leave the land mine behind for those people. I'm not mean enough to actually do it though.

      2. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

        I am so hungry for tacos! It's funny that you have Taco Tuesday, there is a VFW bar in the area that has 50 cent Taco Thursdays. My friend broke a record by eating 29 of the things! He then promptly felt sick the rest of the night and of course his record was soon beaten. The most I could ever manage was 11. Are there competitions at your Taco Tuesday?

      3. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

        Oops, replied to the wrong person last time. To correct my mistake I will supply you with a Ford GT picture.
        <img src="http://www.cartype.com/pics/303/small/etienne_fordgt.jpg&quot; width=500>
        And on the subject of Tacos. My parents, who just returned from a trip to Arizona, said that they had the best Mexican food they have ever experienced while they were in Arizona. I guess the proximity to the country makes all the difference! I wonder if there are Canadian food restaurants up here in the north? Actually, I wonder what Canadian food would be?

      4. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

        I'm sad to hear that your sick. I hope you start feeling better today.
        Don't worry about my work, like I said, I can do some things at home, and since I can't really leave my computer while at home due to the work, it allows me an excuse to play some video games. Something that I haven't been doing much lately and kind of missed, especially the social aspect of playing with semi-distant friends.

    2. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      6901 – 6950 Surprise!
      Anyway I know I owe some meal details from Monday! Sorry. I'll get to that tomorrow. Today is going to be a busy day. On Sunday Kevin and I we started a speech he is doing for scouts. We only had one other day to work on it. He has to give it today! Yesterday Jake was crying that I was not home to play with him. I could see the stress in Aga this morning. We haven't told our kids. Also yesterday I got pulled over for a brake light. Stupid German car. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I'll have to investigate that more thoroughly when i get a breather.
      Anyway 204.6 lb, yikes. But I was eating whatever I could where ever and when ever yesterday. I ate some cold lasagna, actually a lot. And I have trouble digesting tomatoes.

    3. $kaycog Avatar

      smz, zsm, mtv…………………Thanks for the update on your Dad. I do think you should tell your children, but that's just my opinion.
      I got a kick out of seeing this older article that I replied to. Nice PT Cruiser.

    4. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

      I'm sorry to hear about your dad, but I am happy to hear that he seems to be recovering well. Keep us updated.
      And of all the crap to happen you get pulled over for a brake light. I really hope that the rest of your week goes smoothly for you and your family.

    5. Buickboy92 Avatar

      @MZS: I'm so sorry for your Dad!!!!! I hope he can get better and a full recovery! I'll be praying for all of you! Do they know what caused him to have a heart attack? was it stress or something (God forbid) worse? Anyway I hope all is well and everyone is doing fine! πŸ™‚
      6904 – I know what will cheer you up! Looks here!

    6. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Thanks BB,
      I think he is leaving the hospital today. He's a smoker, that's why. The blood vessels towards the bottom of the heart have gotten too constricted. I hope he stops smoking (again). Yes he's had a heart attack before. That was a neat story too, maybe later. We are all very lucky. There has been stress in his life recently too, maybe it led to it indirectly as well, but maybe simply since he might have started smoking more because of stress. I swear I saw that very Amazon for sale before in Berkley. It's nice, but I like mine better with it's flaws vs the flaws that one has.
      Thanks Tower,
      I just got a warning thankfully. It turns-out that my Golf used the same bulb and I bet I have one still in the garage. But it's intermittent, so maybe just loose. Here's that crap from Tuesday that doesn't seem so important anymore: http://stcharles-il.patch.com/articles/fermilab-f
      Thanks Tempesjo,
      For years I had always weighed less than 205 lb. I wanted to get back to that. But now with my dad, I see how much it would help to lose a whole lot of weight in my case. I have set a new goal of 190 lb July 1st. I know it's ambitious. But the last days I have not cared at all, and just eaten whatever any chance I got. I'll start again diet Sunday. I heard about Madison on the radio, I'm glad you are having a mini-Egypt over there.
      Thanks Skaycog,
      I know when I was a kid it was awful when my parents did not tell me my GGF had passed. I felt like they thought I was too immature and then that everyone thought I was stupid. In this case he's doing okay for now. The sad thing is that there is nothing really that doctors can do to really fix his heart for various reasons. I don't want them to have that scary thought. Maybe it's wrong, Agnes also does not want to tell the kids, but I have not had a chance to talk with her about anything really yet, so I don't know the reasons.
      Today I finally get to drink (I hope)!
      PS: We're having a party on Saturday, not be sad about this, be happy is our atitude!

    7. $kaycog Avatar

      szm, mzs, imo……..I hope your dad will quit smoking, but it's a really hard addiction to kick. There's nothing a thing anybody can do about it either. Have fun at your party this weekend. That will probably do all of you a lot of good. Remember my favorite saying…….life goes on. It really does.

    8. Buickboy92 Avatar

      @MZS: I'm glad your Dad is gonna try and stop smoking! it's a very bad habit! hopefully he can get some rest! Best luck to you and your family! A little Sam Cooke gets me threw sad times too. Maybe this will make you feel better! and goodnight and get some rest yourself! πŸ™‚
      [youtube acnvPtdS-5Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acnvPtdS-5Y youtube]

    9. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear BB,
      Thanks the song is very nice. You're always upbeat and way more mature than I was when I was high schooler.
      Dear Skaycog,
      So the food on Monday, oh wait first 203.0 lb this morning, which I have no idea how is possible because I gorged at two opportunities I had which were tacos and gyros. Anyway, on Monday we first had a corn appetizer. This time it was not as good as usual, too soggy. They also ran out of the bread and the sour dough they had instead was not like SF sour dough, wrong taste and too crunchy. Aga got a chicken salad, which I guess she liked, but I don't understand how people can like salads, and I was a vegetarian for a while.
      But I decided to order a bunch of little things (usually I get a burger there), namely three. It ended-up being a lot and all very good. First I had a raw tuna on avocado dish. Then an almost Indian tasting pierogi-like thing with cilantro sauce. Finally chicken taco that had cucumbers and the dough was like Asian style bun dough. Those last two things I shared with Aga. At the end we shared a slice of raspberry and chocolate cheesecake, which was also delicious.
      Did I write about the card I made for Aga? This week has been a blur.

    10. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

      Well that's not very good news. I hope that Obama's proposal to increase the Department of Energy's budget will happen to allow you guys the funds to continue operating. I know I've tooted this horn before but I think science, research and education should not even be on the table when it comes to budget cuts. I see these areas as great investments for the future and areas where we don't want to fall behind. There are plenty of other areas that could swallow some cuts.
      I hope it all works out though. It sounds like they will know something by the end of the month. How is your dad doing? I hope he can kick the smoking habit.

    11. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Tower,
      My dad is doing fine today. I notice I forgot to mention him this morning. Oops! He left the hospital and went home last night. I do hope he stops smoking, but I don't know if he will. I'm glad you think about science the way that you do. Seeing that as investment is how I do too. Not all dollars are equal, the three areas you highlight, they are important for the future – is how I see it too. The budget for next year is not great either for HEP, but not a disaster like what is being discussed now for Mar til Oct. I think that one is fair. Advisers have decided that clean energy for example is more important investment than high energy physics, and I can understand that reasoning, so I'm okay with that too. One thing though that is a little bit frustrating is how hard it is for people not from the EU to work with CERN. Some progress has been made with that, but it's nothing like how open Fermilab has been to users everywhere. But there has been some blow back again because of how the previous administration committed to fund a number of international projects, and then failed to. That was upsetting to people that makes these sorts of decisions all around the world and it's a real shame the US does not look so serious about research anymore. I'm still hopeful though.

    12. $kaycog Avatar

      msz, mzs, m&m………Thanks for the message yesterday that your Dad was home. That's great news! I hope your party tomorrow is a lot of fun, as I think you are ready for that after the stressful week you've had. Is it going to be at your house?

    13. $kaycog Avatar

      tempesjo……show us your toes! πŸ˜‰

    14. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      Party will be at my uncle's because it is very close to where my father lives. Here's the card I made for Aga. https://picasaweb.google.com/msliczniak/Valentine… I'm stupid proud of it. It was Michelle's idea to write love with the cards, though I did not think a Q would work better than a 10, doh! My idea, also cribbed – this time from someone who posted a gross heart picture in oppo when heart clicks disappeared , was to get a really gross pic of a heart like that and put it in a card. I think this was way better, thanks Michelle. I also got her a $10 alarm clock, just cause I felt bad, but she did get a nice camera from everyone pitching in before. But you can ask Tower, Aga just sort of rolled her eyes about that stuff this year.
      Have a good one,

    15. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Good morning Skaycog!
      201.4 lb! I have no idea how, but I'm super happy! Have a great day.

    16. $kaycog Avatar

      zsm, zms, cbs……..Your Valentines are very funny and clever. Something like that means more than anything you can buy.
      Good deal on what the scale showed this morning. Stress over your Dad might have something to do with it.
      I met friends at a pizza place last night. Across the room a guy was swallowing a 3-foot balloon, and I almost choked on my pizza watching him. Come to find out, it was a magician that the restaurant had hired for the evening. I'm thinking that he had to have been deflating the balloon in his mouth, but it appeared that he was swallowing the balloon.

    17. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      Wow was it a busy day for me. Aga got called into work and I was Mr. Mom. Was a nice lazy day. Lazy is relative for me, means I did not much work around the house, but spent it with kids. I did dishes, made lunch, laundry, and walked the dog. I played a lot with the kids, toys like cars lego, lego batman video game, volcano, etc. We finished Adventures in Babysitting. That's a great film, though some bad language. Some nice cars and set in Chicagoland too.
      There was a lot of get the kids here in time things as well. Like Michelle had a birthday party. I thought that Jake had one at 4PM too but it turned-out that instead Michelle had cheerleading. I almost sent her to the party without the gift, pretty hectic πŸ˜‰ Last night we were SO very tired. Aga and I fell asleep on the couch after the party. We finally made it upstairs around 2AM.
      Now I am going to watch AFV with the family. I hope you had a great day, I did! Yesterday my dad smoked, it made me sad and angry, but you're right nothing I can do. I had to go outside so no one would see I was crying. One of my uncle's dogs came out to me, then Aga. Dogs are really great. I weighted 204.6 lb this morning. That's impressive to me, I really partied hard last night though. Your clown and balloon story reminds me of some things from the internet from the seedier half which I don't need reminders of. Someone should invent that little light doodad from the film MiB.

    18. $kaycog Avatar

      zms, zsm, usn……..It sounds like you had a busy weekend with a party and playing Mr. Mom. It's no wonder you were so tired after the emotional strain of your Dad's heart attack last week. It's too bad he is unable to quit smoking. I got tickled when you said: "One of my uncle's dogs came out to me, then Aga. Dogs are really great."
      I had a nice weekend with out-of-town friends coming on Saturday. The guys played golf, and us gals went to a nearby town to the antique and art shops. Sunday was church and household stuff. I watched the last 25 laps of NASCAR which was very exciting. A 20-year old kid won in the Woods Brothers' Ford……I am pleased.
      Yum……..my first coffee now, and I'm ready to start my day.

    19. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

      I'm happy to hear that your dad is home and doing well. Now to just kick that smoking habit.
      Also, that valentine's day card is killer! It's much better than I imagined when you told me about it (and that was pretty good).
      It sounds like you had quite the party too. At least you got to have a "lazy" day on Sunday. Have a good Monday!
      <img src="http://infolocos.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/garfield-mondays_suck.jpg&quot; width=500>

    20. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      Yes he was young. I heard him on the radio, he made me smile talking about how he did not expect to win and didn't have any dress clothes to wear for after. Also that dog bit WAS unintentionally funny now that I reread it. Aga is great too of course, but a dog can sense something is up too which is remarkable in it's own way. Then without speaking just cheer you up.
      Tomorrow is Jake's birthday. All the kindergartners have school off and he is having a party at Chucky Cheese. He's really excited about the snail and goldfish he got from my aunt and uncle.

    21. $kaycog Avatar

      szm, zsm, rotc……………..Yes, dogs do sense when things are wrong with people. I've had a few experiences like that too.
      So, Jake's birthday is tomorrow and Charles Cheese is the place of celebration. Will he be 6 or 7? How many kids are going to be at the party?
      I've had a busy day and am tired……later!

    22. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Tower,
      That was an apt image for today. I put in a 12 hour day! It should not have been this hard but it was one of those, "Why isn't this working?" days. Whatever, tomorrow will be better and I finally did get that blasted new hardware working. I hope yo had a good one. We had a freezing rain here (was annoying when I got to the ice covered car), how was it up where you are?
      6921 (or so)

    23. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      Oh man sorry to hear you had a tiring day. I had a busy one too, my mind is tired, but not body. Actually I'm in a good spirits really since I got the bpm working today eventually. I bet you will have a better day tomorrow. I know I will, Jake turns 6. I'll be there for a bit at the party.
      PS: 204.8 lb (uh-oh)

    24. $kaycog Avatar

      msz, mzs, usps……….Happy Taco Tuesday! I hope you have a not-so-busy-and-long-day like you did yesterday. I think mental tiredness is much more tiring that physical tiredness, if you know what I mean.
      Happy Birthday to Jake! Your toddler is a little boy now. Have fun at Mr. Cheese!

    25. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      They can both be bad. If you don't over do either so that a good night's sleep brings you back, then mental or physical tiredness is okay. But it seems like you can 'hurt' your brain too just like strain your back or whatever. I'm fine this morning. I hope you're okay as well. What did you end-up doing that wore you out, moving furniture or something? Watching kids?
      The worst tiredness though is no sleep tiredness. Like when you have an infant, man I'm glad I was young when I had my kids.
      What's up with the taco Tuesday thing? You have said that for a long time. Do you eat tacos every Tuesday. I could really see you sticking to a bullheaded tradition like that for some reason πŸ™‚
      PS: 204.6 lb (oh man it was real weight gain from that party…)

    26. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

      I also had an appropriately long day (7:00am-11:00pm with breaks). Not challenging though, just tedious work loading reports. I did work from home after 6pm though and that helped a lot. The ability to blast some music, eat pizza, and play Battlefield between report uploads almost makes it feel like I'm not working at all, and it gives me an excuse to play games since I have to stay at my computer, haha!
      We also had freezing rain yesterday. The car was covered in it. While driving the windshield kept icing up. No matter how high I turned the heat up all I could melt was a small area near the bottom.
      Have fun at Chuck E Cheese today!

    27. Buickboy92 Avatar

      @MZS: I'm glad you are less stressed and feeling better! Sorry about your Dad! You should have a talk with your dad and hopefully you can use some persuasion and try to get him to sign up for a quit smoking class or meeting. I realize it is probably a lot harder then that, but I hope you guys can work something out. Best of luck and many wishes! πŸ™‚

    28. $kaycog Avatar

      zsm, szm, pdq………..There's a Mexican restaurant in town that has a Taco Tuesday every week….cheaper tacos. I have friends who like to go, and I'll go with them on occasion. I don't have tacos though, as they're no big deal. My favorite tacos are still the shrimp tacos at Chili's. So, that's where I picked up Taco Tuesdays. *yawn*
      I was tired yesterday mostly from little sleep Sunday night. I do that every once in awhile…..can't turn the thinker off. But I got 8+ hours of uninterrupted sleep last night, so I'm good to go.

    29. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Tower,
      Wow you had a long day too! What was it with yesterday? I have not been playing much video games lately, a little bit of Lego Batman with my sons and some Wii doctor game that got too hard suddenly, I was a very bad Alaskan doctor, many patients died. Instead I have been reading when I get a chance, fiction even, well historical fiction.
      Yesterday I had to stop twice on the way home to deice. It was pretty awful out there. I had fun at CC today, so did Jake. He has a little sweatheart, but I did not know she was all wide eyed about him as well. That was cute. He was very excited that he won enough tickets to get a transformer from the back wall. They put him in this little chamber with tickets that blew in the wind. He grabbed the colorful tickets which turned-out to be worth 50 or 100.

    30. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear BB,
      I have found your first car purchase: <img src="http://images.craigslist.org/3n73pf3l85Y35U45X5b2k124303d94fc21bce.jpg">'39 Buick RoadMaster $10500 OBO
      Well actually it was Scroggs or Dustin that found it, it just made me think of you!
      I don't know what to do about my dad. I think though that unless he decides on his own to quit, no meetings or classes will work. Ooooh this is exciting, after the birthday party I came back into work and then we had a little fire outside my office! That doesn't happen everyday πŸ˜‰ It wasn't bad though, just smelly, some electrical equipment, likely a power supply, malfunctioned.

    31. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      So you don't eat tacos on Tuesdays, but your friends do. I used to call Michelle "tough taco" because she would fall down or whatever and then stop crying when I called her that. Then someone told me about the double meaning for taco, so I don't say that anymore. I just did it since it alliterated and I had a biology teacher that used to say, "tough titties said the mama to the kitties when the milk ran dry something something cry." Shoot can't recall exactly anymore, anyway I tried to clean it up from the titties to tacos and made it worse in the process. Wait what were we talking about again? I'm rambling…
      Oh yeah so the bad news about the little fire is I had to leave my office, and I was headed to the library to read something or other, but the cafeteria was on the way, and I ate a big late lunch. Tilapia with rice and rice crispy treat. Sorry, I've been doing pretty badly at the diet lately. I also ate three slices of pizza at the party, I know, I'm really ashamed. But here's a very happy Jake from the party:
      <img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_mmcVgC-9q4/TWQeBCNzFrI/AAAAAAAAA28/RlYXdoCbLds/s400/IMG_0522.JPG">Jake's b-day

    32. $kaycog Avatar

      msz, mzs, gif………It looks like Jake had a great 6th birthday today. No wonder kids like to go to Charles Cheese for their birthday. I bet Jake will sleep well tonight, as he had a BIG day!
      You had a biology teacher that said "tough titties"? Geez….I can't believe a teacher would say that.
      I had a good day and am ready for a relaxing evening in front of the TV with a glass of wine (or two). πŸ˜‰
      Good night!

    33. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

      I've had lots of long days lately. A co-worker and I are the only ones with access to change things in the SAP system and we have to share those resources with other business units and so we are stuck doing our work from 5:30pm and later. We will get through it though.
      It looks like you had fun at CC. That blowing wind game sounds fun and Jake must have some good hands to grab those colored tickets!

    34. $kaycog Avatar

      TowerofPower……I finally found your reply. It's waaaay above here. I received email notification of your reply, but didn't see it here.
      The Taco Tuesday here is no big bargain. I think you get three tacos for $6, and there is no contest. Like I said earlier, I don't think they're that good, and they're certainly no bargain.
      I certainly hope your long days don't last too long. All work and no play, blah, blah, blah.

    35. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Tower,
      That's awful. We have dev licenses sort of like that here too. We have 3, will get only 2 next time around likely, but dozens of people share them. So sometimes the the license server says you can't do your work, and you just know Gus or Fred (I've edited the names) have left some window open again. Sometimes it's best to wait until they have gone home, open the door to their office, and quit the ide.

    36. $kaycog Avatar

      zsm, szm, ftd………..I'm sorry you are ill. I've never had sinus problems, but a few friends are troubled with them, and they can really be miserable. Do you have a prescription? Take care of yourself, and I hope you are feeling better very soon. Now is not the time to worry about losing weight.
      Best wishes,

    37. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. Likely some birthday party kid was the vector. I had a nice evening. Well first not so great, I stayed in bed until the kids came home from school. Then I came down to help out. But I was useless, everything just seemed so disorienting. Aga asked me to open some chocolates for cooking these desert chocolate balls she was making and I spilled half the bag on the floor. So I went back to bed. Then my parents came over and I came down to spend some time with them. That was nice. I ate cheeseburger, played a card game with my dad and wife, etc. I feel a lot better and yes I did get antibiotics. The doc was great, he's the one that Aga once got for turned-out to be an infection she had on her jaw and he did a great job with that. I thought I had an ear infection when I went in cause that was the pain I was feeling in my ears. I just shoveled outside and now I am loading-up a car with fun fair stuff. Have a great night!
      PS: Have I told you I dig the three letters you pick every time you reply?

    38. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

      $kaycog & mzs…
      Oh shoot…now I really replied to the wrong person. I hope this one is in the right spot! See above for replies!

    39. $kaycog Avatar

      zms, smz, doa…………I know your sinus problem isn't my fault. Being sorry doesn't mean I caused it; it means that you have my sympathy, and I'm sad for you. How are you feeling today?

    40. $kaycog Avatar

      TowerofPower…….Canadians mostly eat bacon. That's why it's called Canadian bacon. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_cuisine
      You make me laugh with your random posting here! Thanks for that lovely picture!! I haven't seen it before.

    41. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Tower,
      Don't sweat replying to the wrong person, it's how I got started in this game. I replied to Alff, one of his jokes, and then Skaycog replied to me on accident instead of him when chasing storms. Anyway that's my recollection at least, I get confused about all that stuff as time passes. The only Canadian food I know about and really want to try is poutine:
      <img src="http://www.vagabondish.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/poutine.jpg"&gt;
      It's cheese curds with fries gravy. I made some myself with some Dells cheese curds, Mc Donalds fries, and KFC gravy, but I bet some thicker slices of potato with chicken based gravy like it's supposed to really be would be even better, and maybe even more healthy. A&W in Canada serves this, but not in US sadly. I googled and there was an article even about the places that you could get it near Chicago, but some of the places had closed and the best one was very expensive/trendy/busy. Skaycog is right about the bacon, way different, and when I visited my father's friend (who was Polish but lived in Canada) they had it for breakfast all the time. But it was smoked and they would eat it with bread. It's very good, a lot like a smoked rather than canned Polish Ham really.
      Enjoy gaming, the library here recently started lending-out video games. I just picked-up Guitar Hero Van Halen and I'm ready to Jump! Kevin really likes the game Rise of Nations, but I always had lots of trouble getting it to run on any of our computers. Finally it worked on a VIsta machine of all things but recently the HD died. That's been a very annoying computer, poorly constructed and drivers breaking after Windows Software updates.

    42. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      Oh man I was trying to be silly about the sorry, but I sense I came off whiny. Sorry, I appreciate you feeling for me and wishing me getting better. anyway I am feeling a lot better tonight and will go back to work tomorrow.
      PS: 205.6 lb

    43. $kaycog Avatar

      smz, mzs, nbc……..I'm glad you're feeling better, thank you antibiotics! TGIF! What's in store for you this weekend?
      This is the most tragic thing that has happened in Colorado this week. http://www.krdo.com/news/26967989/detail.html

    44. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

      Wow, they have quite a diverse bunch of food! Obviously influenced by different European countries control. I am surprised to find out that the Chinese buffet came from Canada in around 1870.
      And how could I forget about Canadian maple syrup, I have some home!

    45. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

      Poutine definitely looks like something worth trying. Here I thought it was a french dish based on the name but turns out it's from rural Quebec!
      That's really cool that the library started loaning out video games. I played guitar hero several years ago. It's a lot of fun. I should really try the Van Halen version as they are one of my favorite classic rock bands (before Sammy Hagar though). I don't know if I posted this before, but since we are talking about them…one of my favorite songs ever! I love the guitar solo while walking on a never ending library table.
      6949…not sure how to start a new one so I'll let someone else do that.[youtube g0XLKcMoXRE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XLKcMoXRE youtube]

    46. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Dear Skaycog,
      I know, antibiotics are the bees knees, right-on! I weighed 203.x lb this morning (crap forgot the decimal) so I like to think it was all that junk in my sinuses, it really was terrible this time. A very strange type of headache went along with it. And I could 'hear' it in ears, with every heartbeat or movement of my head. You're lucky to never had these sinus infections. I know it's all bacteria/virus/fungus/mold/allergen/whatever but I never had these issues when I lived in CA. I'm convinced it's the weather/climate here, science be damned. And I praised antibiotics in the first sentence of this paragraph, guess I'm not too consistent πŸ˜‰
      About this weekend, it's funny I just talked to Aga and she replied, "It's complicated." And after the explanation I agree. Lots of taking the kids here and there. There are three birthday parties, Aga might have to work Sunday, at least one cheer leading, and we are all supposed to go to a scouts awards and lunch. Anyway that's just how it all goes. I'm excited soccer starting-up again myself.
      That was a very tragic story. My uncle in France, he was married once. That was a sad story too. His wife lost her first husband to a robber. He was a cab driver and was shot. That sort of stuff is senseless, I wish everyone was decent. One time I was mugged in Chicago. But I had been a wrestler and used what I had learned to break free. One of my friends though he was not so lucky, he was in a coma for a while afterward. Now he is fine again though, but that was scary. Doubly so since he was a really sharp guy.

    47. mr. mzs zsm msz esq Avatar
      mr. mzs zsm msz esq

      Everybody, new place: http://atomictoasters.com/2010/12/startup-where-w
      Dear Tower,
      I liked those music games a lot too, I stopped playing them much when a friend of my daughter's came over and spun the 'cymbals' around on the drums and ripped-out the leads. Jake and I were the drummers, Kevin on guitar (sometimes I was rhythm or bass), and the girls were vocals in our house. I need to fix that drum set someday, it was a lot of fun banging on that. max chewed-up the drum sticks by now though too πŸ˜‰ Youtube is working only sporadically at work this morning, that's a good song, now I wish I could listen to it again! But I remember the video, was great one. To me the drums sounded like a lopey idle πŸ˜‰

      1. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

        For whatever reason my comments do not get posted on Atomic Toaster (it still says that they are awaiting moderation). It's a very cool site though and I have read a ton of stuff from it already!
        Thanks for waving at me from Atomic Toaster. I would wave back if my comments were approved by the moderators!

        1. mzs Avatar

          Hi Tower,
          I wanted to comment just a while ago myself and intensedebate is not working right ATM for me. I have contacted Dearthair. Sorry about that, I hope your comments appear soon.

        2. Tower_Of_Power Avatar

          Ah, I see, thanks for the help. It's not a big problem or anything.
          I am really digging the site though with the oldtech new tech stuff. I have found myself just reading a ton of it over the past few days.

  3. engineerd Avatar

    I remember when the PT Cruiser was introduced it was a game changer. It set the tone for the retro-futuristic design language embraced by Chevy (HHR, Camaro), Ford (Mustang, and to some degree the Flex), and even the Dodge Charger. A trend that lasted a decade.
    However, like Oldsmobile, Mercury, Saturn, and many individual models littering the automotive timeline, it has been ignored by its creators and left to linger and die. This is sad, really, considering all the excitement surrounding it when it was introduced. A major redesign 5 years ago could have gone a long way in extending the life — and excitement — around this vehicle. Instead, it became a cash cow as is and Chrysler had no short-term reason to do anything to it. However, the long term hit to Chrysler's reputation is going to take a while — and many more dollars — to overcome.

    1. muthalovin Avatar

      Its true that the PT Cruisers design brought the retro-styling to the masses, but I like to think that the Plymouh Prowler actually started Chrysler down the road toward the PT.

      1. engineerd Avatar

        Good point. And another deeply disappointing Chrysler product.

  4. CaptainZeroCool Avatar

    I'd almost like to have a new PT Cruiser. If they were $7995. That is all a new one seems worth to me.

  5. P161911 Avatar

    Not only is the interior better than a Caliber, the whole car is better than a Caliber. Hard to believe that this got classified as a truck for the CAFE regs.

  6. Tanshanomi Avatar

    I've always liked the convertible. It really didn't work as a retro car, but that's why I liked it; it was a bit more of its own thing. It was inventive. And can you name another cheap 4-seat convert?

  7. Jeannot Avatar

    Maybe the collaboration with Fiat will help the PT get better mileage.

  8. dustin_driver Avatar

    Kill it. Kill it. KILL it.

  9. bzr Avatar

    My roommate's girlfriend drove one in silver that was exactly like that. He's 6'7", and she's 5'2", and somehow he was able to cram in it with the top up. He should have gotten an award for that.
    And yes, before you stereotype, she IS in a sorority.

  10. ptschett Avatar

    The dash was a lot better before the 2006 refresh:
    <img src="http://ptcruizer.com/ptpix/interior-side.jpg&quot; />
    Also the PT Cruiser was considered a good handling car for its time, at least with the "touring" suspension that had the 16" wheels. Here's Car and Driver's take.
    The Daimler ransack of Chrysler's savings"merger of equals" is, I suspect, to blame for many of the PT Cruiser's shortcomings. The car was ready for production signoff at the time of the merger, with Chrysler envisioning it as a showcase of how well their flex manufacturing process was developing and what the new direction of Plymouth would be; Daimler came in and re-evaluated the project per their design manual, delaying the start of production past any chance of selling the car as a Plymouth and probably adding the extra pounds that hurt the PT Cruiser's performance metrics. Source here

  11. Tim Odell Avatar
    Tim Odell

    A compact hatchwagon thing with a lot of utility for the size. A great car by 2001 standards.
    Unfortunately, standards changed and it didn't.

  12. twitchel Avatar

    when I saw the original concepts I thought it might actually be large enough to haul a motorcycle,
    but really it's kinda useless. Better visibility than the HHR but not much else going for it.

  13. JustinBehrends Avatar

    Thank God this automotive travesty is almost dead and gone. The whole Big Three going retro has never done it for me.

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