With twin-turbo and AWD, is it wrong to be excited about the 2020 Ford Transit?

In the middle of the Geneva Auto Show, Ford dropped a press release about its US-market vehicles. It included things about commercial vehicles, specifically the F-600, which unsurprisingly slots in between the F-550 and the F-650. It also included model year 2020 updates to the Ford Transit van.

The updated Transit van gets new front fascia and headlights, standard active safety features, updated infotainment, and a WiFi hotspot. But the biggest changes are the ones not easily visible. Under the hood, Ford now gives a choice of two all-new engines: a 2.0-liter EcoBlue® bi-turbo I4 diesel and a 3.5-liter V6 gasoline engine with port and direct fuel injection. For some reason Ford does not like to provide power numbers in their press relases but it said that the “2.0-liter EcoBlue® bi-turbo I4 diesel engine is more fuel-efficient and offers more power and torque than the outgoing 3.2-liter diesel engine.”

The 3.5-liter twin-turbo EcoBoost will also continue to be available. For 2020 all of those engines will be mated to ten-speed transmissions, which have been available in the F-150 for a while now. While these are great transmissions, we have found them to be slightly conservative in up-shifting in normal driving mode.

The really big news is the availability of all-wheel-drive. Annoyingly, Ford does not say on which models or with which engines the new AWD system will be available – let’s assume all. Importantly, the integration of the AWD system does not raise the load floor or seat height. The rear biased system can send all of its power to the front wheels if needed, and there are drive modes for various slippery and off-road-y conditions.

This fact needs to be further underscored – Ford’s cargo van will available with a powerful twin-turbo V6 and all-wheel-drive! 

But wait, as the man in the infomercial says, there is more! Also new for 2020 is the availability of a new Crew Van. The crew van carry five people in two rows of seating, which leaves a huge cargo area behind the second row. And an optional power sliding door is available, too. Unfortunately Ford did not provide any pictures of the crew van, arguably the most interesting of the three.

Burnouts and the GMC badge aside, it now maybe a good time for a remake of The A-Team.

The combination of crew van, EcoBoost V6, and all-wheel drive will not only make the Transit a cool commercial vehicle. It will also appeal to the #vanlife people, who build-up their vans to live and travel in. Three roof height and three length options offer a ton of possibilities. With the good power and traction of AWD, bank robbers will find it worthy of consideration more than ever.

Further, the extreme sporty people who travel to extreme-ish locations with their extreme gear to sit in bars and talk about doing extreme things will also love it because it is bigger and more comfortable than SUVs, but also is not an SUV, which is something that their parents drive. And there are sure to be accessory racks and ladders available so that they can show off their extreme equipment. And the Transit can also pull a good size trailer for the transport of extreme motorcycles, and extreme ATVs, and extreme water things.

When I was a kid my parents had a ’91 Dodge conversion van. I loved that thing. Is is time to start loving full-size vans again? Perhaps. Long live the van!

All pictures were supplied by Ford. Also, Ford, your pictures need to be better. 

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35 responses to “With twin-turbo and AWD, is it wrong to be excited about the 2020 Ford Transit?”

  1. E34less Avatar
    E34less

    Weirdly, I’m more excited about the crew van than I am about AWD. Crew Van is Best Van.

  2. Alff Avatar
    Alff

    I rented a 12 passenger version of the outgoing van to haul the posse over the holidays. Despite having limited use for it, I really want one.

  3. I_Borgward Avatar
    I_Borgward

    The only thing wrong is that it took this long for someone to market a Crew Van, which is, I suppose, a passenger van with only half the seats and maybe half the windows. Or, a cargo van with added seats and extra windows? Or something. Thing is, this is how most people I know who own passenger vans configure them anyway: the back dedicated to hauling large things, third seat stored in the basement and taken over by pets, or, depending on zip code, converted into porch furniture.

    Anyway. Crew Van. Great idea! About time.

    1. SlowJoeCrow Avatar
      SlowJoeCrow

      The Sprinter has had a crew van for a while and the “double cab in van” is popular in Europe, where it is taxed like a cargo van. The main difference is the euro models have a fixed bulkhead behind the second row.

      I welcome the Transit crew van since it fills a major gap for users who want to haul, people and stuff, and want better protection and a lower floor than a pickup.

      1. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        The bulkhead has always stopped me from considering those. I once test drove a Hiace that was great…but the bulkhead didn’t allow for very long objects to be carried (like building materials).

        1. SlowJoeCrow Avatar
          SlowJoeCrow

          In the US we can do without or have an opening bulkhead and even windows in the back siince we don’t have crazy European car taxes. Best example off hand was the Landrover Defender crew cab. In most of the world it has a 127″ wheelbase but the Dutch market required a special extended model with a 130″ wheelbase since Dutch tax laws required a specific amount of cargo floor ahead of the rear axle.

          1. Sjalabais Avatar
            Sjalabais

            Great example for how politicians and the car market can be behind some tragicomic industrial turns. In Norway, the commercial vehicle tax rebate used to only demand a separate cargo area of a certain cubic size. So, for a time, trolls would buy vehicles like the Volvo 850R, Audi S6 or a selection of AMG wagons at one third of their ordinary price…on a commercial van registration. The loophole was closed, but some guys got to drive insane vehicles at family car prices.

          2. Vairship Avatar
            Vairship

            Nah, best example was when Dutch law tried to distinguish between “subsidized (work)van” and “non-van, i.e. (highly taxed) passenger car” by whether there was a 6 inch sill behind the front seats and whether the side windows behind the b-pillar were blocked off.
            That’s when some lout created a Ferrari (328 I believe) “work van”…

    2. 0A5599 Avatar
      0A5599

      GM has done that since maybe the 80’s, though I think they might have had 3 rows of seats followed by 8 feet of cargo space. A friend used to have one to haul his motorcycle to the races; he would camp in the second row.

      They did offer a 5 passenger crew cargo option later on.

      http://www.cityrentatruck.com/assets/img/vehicles/vancargocrew_03.jpg

    3. Zentropy Avatar
      Zentropy

      My dad’s Econoline work vans of the 70s – 90s were always outfitted as 2+3s. I don’t see how this is a particularly new idea.

      1. Scoutdude Avatar
        Scoutdude

        The Company vans I and my coworkers had as sales reps were all 2+3 whether E-150, B-150, G20 or Astro. Ours were upfittted with a bulkhead and shelving for product.

      2. Scoutdude Avatar
        Scoutdude

        The Company vans I and my coworkers had as sales reps were all 2+3 whether E-150, B-150, G20 or Astro. Ours were upfittted with a bulkhead and shelving for product.

    4. I_Borgward Avatar
      I_Borgward

      Perhaps it will be produced with a partition. Or, probably, a partial partition, provided the prototype passes into production.

    5. Scoutdude Avatar
      Scoutdude

      Ford had the Crew Wagon version of the Econoline/E-series though it was discontinued before the full body version of the van was discontinued. It included a bulkhead behind the second row. However the 5 passenger version was available in most years of the Nantucket Econolines so all the way back to 75 though they didn’t have a factory installed bulkhead.

    6. Scoutdude Avatar
      Scoutdude

      Ford had the Crew Wagon version of the Econoline/E-series though it was discontinued before the full body version of the van was discontinued. It included a bulkhead behind the second row. However the 5 passenger version was available in most years of the Nantucket Econolines so all the way back to 75 though they didn’t have a factory installed bulkhead.

  4. Zentropy Avatar
    Zentropy

    I like the Transit– I only wish it was more attractive. The new grille has better proportions, but the front end still looks like a massively bloated Fiesta. The venerable Econoline, with its chiseled styling, makes the Transit look downright wimpy.

    1. Toaster Avatar
      Toaster

      I would take any Transit over the fake machismo of a modern Econoline every day of the week and twice on sundays. The oversized chrome Grills are ridiculous on a Pick-Up, they are downright insulting on a van.

      1. Zentropy Avatar
        Zentropy

        Well, to each his own, I suppose. I personally just like the squareness of the Econoline, even if the grilles are admittedly overdone. Similarly, I much prefer the first-gen Transit Connect to the current one. Anything’s better than the fish-mouth that Ford sticks on all of its models lately.

      2. Zentropy Avatar
        Zentropy

        My apologies for the crude Photoshop, but this is more in line with what I’d like to see in Transit styling. Nothing overly-masculine, just less organic. The face that is acceptable on Ford’s sedans, coupes, and hatchbacks doesn’t translate well to SUVs, vans, and trucks, in my opinion.

        https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7812/33442373738_3cfc720ed4_b.jpg

        1. Toaster Avatar
          Toaster

          While I’m generally OK with that, I gotta say, that’s a nice 2nd gen VW Crafter/MAN TGE you have there.

          Family faces are a fact of modern car marketing I guess, just ask the poor schmucks who have to do a new Cayenne/Macan every few years.

          1. Zentropy Avatar
            Zentropy

            Haha– I too thought “VW” when I first pasted the Flex fascia on it.

          2. Toaster Avatar
            Toaster

            Could Be worse *cough* FiatDucatoandallitsbastardbrothers. *cough*.
            I read the story, back when the 3rd Gen Ducato was unveiled together with the Peugeot and Citroen versions and a journalist asked about the “unconventional” styling, the PSA guy was staight up “that’s on Fiat, ask them”. The best the Fiat guy could come up with, was that it kept the headlights out of the way, if you have a frontal impact.
            The guy who did the Ducato was also responsible for the Lancia Thesis, a car Ferdinand Piech famously called “the coffin nail for the Brand” before it even went on sale.

        2. Toaster Avatar
          Toaster

          While I’m generally OK with that, I gotta say, that’s a nice 2nd gen VW Crafter/MAN TGE you have there.

          Family faces are a fact of modern car marketing I guess, just ask the poor schmucks who have to do a new Cayenne/Macan every few years.

  5. outback_ute Avatar
    outback_ute

    In the Aussie Ranger the 3.2 TD has 147kW, 470Nm or 200hp/353lb-ft, the 2.0 TTD has 150kW, 500Nm although max torque is over a pretty narrow rpm range.

    1. Zentropy Avatar
      Zentropy

      I wish the U.S. market embraced diesels. So many people think they want horsepower, when what they really like is torque.

      1. outback_ute Avatar
        outback_ute

        I would agree most of the time, but outright power still matters in situations where you want max acceleration for more than just instant response, eg overtaking on a two lane road. Lower power from a diesel will be evident there.

        1. Zentropy Avatar
          Zentropy

          I’m soon to “inherit” a Ford pickup with the 300 L6, so I’m trying to mentally brace myself for a wealth of low-end torque, but not much else!

          1. outback_ute Avatar
            outback_ute

            Just never be in a hurry; it won’t matter!

            Talking to a guy with a 1948 Commercial truck (2.3 I4 in a 2-ton truck), on club runs he just leaves early as in an hour or four, to cater for his 35 mph cruising speed.

  6. crank_case Avatar
    crank_case

    Once these hit the used market, bands might start turning up to gigs on time. This could change the face of live music forever.

  7. Toaster Avatar
    Toaster

    My first vehicle was a LWB Crew Van Volkswagen T4. Only Option was cassette Deck, bare metal interior, heavy duty vinyl seats, 60 HP from a non turbo diesel, glacially slow (duh), but miserly on fuel. I would use the rear bench as camping furniture with the rear hatch serving as a makeshift awning. Since it was LWB you could still sleep in the back with the bench installed. The roof was sturdy enough to dance upon, Was the ultimate festival/adventure verhicle, even better than a proper California, since you could pressure wash the whole thing inside and out so you never really gave a shit. Perfect for an 18yo, still miss it.

    Only downside, everytime someone moved. you were the van guy.

  8. Toaster Avatar
    Toaster

    My first vehicle was a LWB Crew Van Volkswagen T4. Only Option was cassette Deck, bare metal interior, heavy duty vinyl seats, 60 HP from a non turbo diesel, glacially slow (duh), but miserly on fuel. I would use the rear bench as camping furniture with the rear hatch serving as a makeshift awning. Since it was LWB you could still sleep in the back with the bench installed. The roof was sturdy enough to dance upon, Was the ultimate festival/adventure verhicle, even better than a proper California, since you could pressure wash the whole thing inside and out so you never really gave a shit. Perfect for an 18yo, still miss it.

    Only downside, everytime someone moved. you were the van guy.

    1. Sjalabais Avatar
      Sjalabais

      As a student, I had a ’71 Volvo 145. I always liked being the “mover”. Free food, good company, and a wee bit of lifting stained furniture. Who could resist that?

      1. Zentropy Avatar
        Zentropy

        Bet you wish you had that one back! For years I looked for a ’69– my favorite of the 140 series– to no avail. I’m still holding out for a 122 wagon, but here in the States, they all seem to be in the Pacific Northwest (at least 2200 miles away from me).

        1. Sjalabais Avatar
          Sjalabais

          Yes, best car I have ever owned, on a very slim set of criteria, ha! The 140-series used to be the child between the Amazon and 240, bastardised and cheap. Those times are gone. My very wagon came up for sale four years after I sold it, and I talked to the owners then. But it had been used up even more than I did, which is really only a testament to the build quality of these vehicles. This christmas, I build a bike shed on my 3rd car spot in the driveway though, so that sort of ends the speculation about a fun car for me. Maybe, eventually, we’ll manage with one daily, and one exciting car. 2k miles to examine a car purchase is quite the distance, but I’d be looking forward to the trip home once you’ve found something!

      2. Toaster Avatar
        Toaster

        Up to a point. Problem is, a T4 can take a lot more stuff than a Volvo wagon, and prewar Berlins blocks in trendy student neighbourhoods don’t have lifts. The whole “old washing machine up the stairs” bit loses its lustre quite quickly, especially when you have to drive back, which meant no drinking.