Hooniverse Asks: What was History’s Most Ill-Proportioned 2+2?


In case you hadn’t heard, Jaguar is planning on offering for sale 10 fully restored to new-car-smell fresh E-Types. When the company first made this known I was a little worried over just which E-Types they’d choose to restore. So far it seems they did the right thing and chose to rejuvenate only two-seater Series 1 cars. Those are quite possibly one of the most beautiful automobiles the world has ever seen, and a far better choice than the star of my nightmare scenario, the 2+2 coupe. Holy cow but that’s a silk purse to sow’s ear transformation. 
As a matter of fact, most two-seater coupes that are extended to include occasional back seats end up looking funky as a result. Consider if you will the Mercedes SL and its more capacious brother the SLC, which one would you date?
Today we’re looking for the most undatable of 2+2s, the cars that were unfortunate recipients of an unsuccessful transformation to car pool duty. Which do you think is the world’s most ungainly 2+2?
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70 responses to “Hooniverse Asks: What was History’s Most Ill-Proportioned 2+2?”

  1. P161911 Avatar
    P161911

    Lotus Elan 2+2
    https://motorbase.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2010/06/27/fs_lotus_34.jpg
    But I would still take one.

    1. crank_case Avatar
      crank_case

      I think they look good, better in real life than pics.

      1. P161911 Avatar
        P161911

        But the two seater does look better.
        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Lotus_Elan_%282723404335%29.jpg/1280px-Lotus_Elan_%282723404335%29.jpg
        I thought the exact opposite on teh 2+2, look better in pictures than real life.

        1. crank_case Avatar
          crank_case

          Of course the 2 seater is perfection, but the 2+2 ain’t a bad looking car.

    2. oldcarjunkie Avatar
      oldcarjunkie

      I would say that is possibly the best 2+2 ever made. It almost looks better than the two seater which is a real beauty.

  2. GTXcellent Avatar
    GTXcellent

    If Chrysler would’ve had the money to rework the b pillar(s), the mid 60’s Power Wagon crew cabs would have been awesome. Instead they’re hands down champs in ugliest pickup contests
    (I guess technically this would be a 3+3, but I’m in no mood for technicalities)
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xpcf5LKltJk/VVaxsD10txI/AAAAAAAA7sY/gJNbrenBrb4/s0-c/1965-Dodge-D200-Power-Wagon-Crew-Cab.jpg

    1. Wayne Moyer Avatar
      Wayne Moyer

      Isn’t that a 3+3?

      1. Lokki Avatar
        Lokki

        Technically

  3. smalleyxb122 Avatar
    smalleyxb122

    Does the 308 GT4 count as a 2+2 of the 308, or a different model altogether?
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/1975_Ferrari_Dino_308_GT4.jpg
    It’s not a terrible looking car, but it lacks the beauty of the GTS/GTB. That may have as much to do with Bertone v Pininfarina as it does with the proportions, though.

    1. Hillman_Hunter Avatar
      Hillman_Hunter

      Wow, if that’s out of proportion, I must have Marty Feldman eyeballs. Now this car (Marcos Mantis) is out of proportion. Most Marcos products were pretty great but this thing fell out of the ugly tree, the ugly tree fell on it, and then a gorilla clubbed the whole failfest like a baby seal: http://www.thewheelsofsteel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/mantis-m70-007-w800.jpg

      1. Wayne Moyer Avatar
        Wayne Moyer

        If that was a Hot Wheels it would be recalled as a mistake by the factory.

        1. Hillman_Hunter Avatar
          Hillman_Hunter

          It’s like an off-brand Hot Wheels that got run over on the driveway.

      2. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        How intense!
        https://rlv.zcache.com/puke_bag-re319a59ae550424d93f82dd6cb3b0b03_v9wtg_8byvr_324.jpg
        Made in a dark workshop? On drugs?

        1. crank_case Avatar
          crank_case

          It was the 60s in the UK, quite likely.

      3. crank_case Avatar
        crank_case

        The funniest description I’ve read for this is “if you think this is good looking, you’re probably the sort of person that fancies the Queen”

      4. Mister Sterling Avatar
        Mister Sterling

        Whoa I think we have a winner.

    2. P161911 Avatar
      P161911

      Technically the GTS/GTB replaced the GT4.

      1. smalleyxb122 Avatar
        smalleyxb122

        The Mondial replaced the GT4.

        1. P161911 Avatar
          P161911

          As usual, everyone forgets the Mondial. To me the Mondial always looked like a poorly executed kit car copy of the GTB. The GT4, GTB/GTS, and Mondial all share a common architecture though.

    3. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar

      Is that really any worse that this?
      [Disclaimer: I personally don’t mind the 308 GT4, and I kinda crush on the Mondial 8]
      http://cars.definitivelist.com/wp-content/uploads/ferrari/mondial-qv-quattrovalvole-coupe/ferrari-mondial-qv-quattrovalvole-coupe.jpg

      1. Mister Sterling Avatar
        Mister Sterling

        I have come around on the Mondial. Only took 29 years.

    4. crank_case Avatar
      crank_case

      It’s a really nice car, but it’s the Emily Deschanel of cars, only under appreciated because of a more more popular sister.

    1. Sjalabais Avatar
      Sjalabais

      It’s strange how GB’s worst styled products have a distinct Soviet look. And I’m an automobile cubist who would like this one if you had described it without a picture.

      1. Hillman_Hunter Avatar
        Hillman_Hunter

        I was thinking the same thing: it’s like a British designer’s idea of the kind of car that a wealthy communist party apparatchik would have hidden at his dacha

    2. crank_case Avatar
      crank_case

      I’ve always thought of Bristols from that period on as the motoring equivalent of those expensive Barbour jackets, functional clothing back in the day, long surpassed by more modern, better, cheaper, stylish alternatives, but continues to trade on an aristocrat image. The fact that the car was an underdeveloped, overpriced, just plain ugly 50s relic (especially compared to earlier cars) is dismissed as us proles just not being cultured enough to get it, even LJK setright was suckered by them. It’s sort of like rolling class trolling.
      Don’t get me wrong, it’d be pretty interesting to drive one and enjoy its quirkyness, but I can’t help think that Tony Crook was a bit PT Barnum in his later years. The “exclusivity” and only selling a handful of cars to the “right” people was just trying to camouflage the lack of investment that even the likes of Aston Martin just about scraped together.

    3. Vairship Avatar
      Vairship

      Similarly:
      “Nice Ford Capri!”
      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Bristol_Brigand_car_front%2Bside.jpg/1920px-Bristol_Brigand_car_front%2Bside.jpg By No machine-readable author provided. Kierant assumed (based on copyright claims). – No machine-readable source provided. Own work assumed (based on copyright claims)., CC BY-SA 2.5, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=1777909

  4. JayP Avatar
    JayP

    It’s fortunate the top can be dropped…
    and in that case only looks like a pickup truck cabrio.
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Morgan_4_Seater_-_Flickr_-_exfordy.jpg

      1. JayP Avatar
        JayP

        That doesn’t even look like a real car… more like a ride at the county fair.

        1. Dean Bigglesworth Avatar
          Dean Bigglesworth

          Saw plenty of similar things in Prague, some original Skoda’s but many more fiberglass replicas built on a Hilux chassis or something.

          1. Sjalabais Avatar
            Sjalabais

            Yeah, exactly. Quite funny sight to behold. I tried to find the manufacturers site again, but my Google-fu let me down. Original comments on the Prague-article were victims to the IntenseDebate/Disqus-apocalypse.

  5. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar

    Pontiac Grand Prix 2+2 Aerocoupe. Not ill-proportioned because of the back seat, but still clearly ill-proportioned.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b95d03e92056272ad77d023e09e2d09078e76f1b7d63d54f6f3b9592f92cc55.jpg

    1. JayP Avatar
      JayP

      Form following function which makes it less worse.

    1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar

      Especially because the 2-seat Isetta was so elegantly proportioned to begin with.

      1. crank_case Avatar
        crank_case

        I think this actually works better, but it’s not saying much.

  6. Hillman_Hunter Avatar
    Hillman_Hunter

    The daddy of all putrid 2+2 editions has to be the XK-E. Not sure which series is the ugliest but they’re all disgusting.
    “A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous.” – Captain Beefheart
    http://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/staging/carlist/items/Fullsize/Cars/137684/137684_Side_Profile_Web.jpg

    1. Sjalabais Avatar
      Sjalabais

      Came here to post that, leaving satisfied.

    2. SlowJoeCrow Avatar
      SlowJoeCrow

      upvoted for the Pachuco Cadaver quote

    3. JRise Avatar
      JRise

      It appears to be a hatchback, never noticed that before, but British cars was never my strong side.

      1. CraigSu Avatar
        CraigSu

        While technically a hatch it doesn’t open like you’d expect. Typically British.
        http://www.lakewell.com/images/stories/products/large/Jaguar/XKE/S2/2plus2/Interior_restoration_kit/Pictures/XKE_S2_2plus2_-_001.jpg
        I will admit to liking any E-Type but, due to the narrow footwell, my feet can’t work the pedals properly.

  7. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar

    Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve always thought the 2+2 version of the original S30 Z-car doesn’t deserve it hate it gets. I still would rather have a 2-seater, but I thought it was admirably done and worked pretty well, visually.
    http://www.windycityzclub.com/images/2016/2016_Misc/280Z50000.jpg

    1. Sean McMillan Avatar
      Sean McMillan

      Even the ZX in the lede photo isn’t terrible. The t tops don’t help it though. When I had one I liked to think of it as a slightly more aerodynamic shooting brake.

    2. Sjalabais Avatar
      Sjalabais

      Imho this one is actually very nice. And I guess it’s cheaper to get? My kind of 2+2 then.

    3. Victor Avatar
      Victor

      Had one like that even the same faded blue,lots of fun for little money.

    4. Schigleymischke Avatar
      Schigleymischke

      Concurred, agreed, supported, and seconded.

    5. crank_case Avatar
      crank_case

      Agree, I’m going to end up over using the Emily Deschanel of cars analogy in this thread I think..

      1. Dean Bigglesworth Avatar
        Dean Bigglesworth

        What’s the Zooey of cars, I wonder?

        1. crank_case Avatar
          crank_case

          Isn’t it obvious? the more diminutive, better known sister http://zcarworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/7862_rw2_1152.jpg
          In the case of the 308 GT4 mentioned above it’s the Dino, and yet it’s easy to overlook the appeal of the lesser known sister.. I remember when 308GT4s could be picked up for as little as €5000 and were sneered at as the car you bought simply because you were desperate to have a ferrari badge, but couldn’t afford a “real” ferrari. https://youtu.be/SZ9s3P34v9s

          1. Dean Bigglesworth Avatar
            Dean Bigglesworth

            Thanks. Instead of thinking popularity and arriving at the logical conclusion my brain derailed at “what’s the kooky version of this” and got stuck in a ditch.

        2. Alff Avatar
          Alff

          Once upon a time she seemed unique and refreshing. Then she got popular. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6b803b84a6a8f7f89faa2024e601fd89299835516e43848b86fc8d0ef3e9c27c.jpg

    6. Alff Avatar
      Alff

      Darker shades helped hide some of the bulk of these, as did replacing the budget-spec wheel covers with decent wheels. Dad had one in Emerald Green with wires that was pretty.

    1. crank_case Avatar
      crank_case

      That’s a 3+3, and if were a person, this would be how bothered it would be about how you think it looks.
      http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4c472dfb7f8b9a5157f60100-506-253/how-bad-is-the-italian-economy-really.jpg

    1. Sjalabais Avatar
      Sjalabais

      The phallic jokes practically write themselves on this one.

      1. Alff Avatar
        Alff

        Who’s up for some plowing?

        1. ptschett Avatar
          ptschett

    1. Lokki Avatar
      Lokki

      Somehow that T-Bird duo makes me think of a high school football team’s quarterback’s picture at age 17 followed by his picture at age 57.

    2. salguod Avatar

      Hey now… (note the avatar) 😀
      The buying public of the day certainly disagreed, it outsold it handily.
      I’d also note that you found one of the most ungainly looking Squarebirds. A hardtop (convertibles look cleaner), no skirts and the 59’s awkward door trim.

    3. crank_case Avatar
      crank_case

      How does the 65 and 67 T-birds fit into this analogy? Facelift and a major session in the gym? I may be alone here, but I actually like these two more than the original car. They’re a better execution at the personal luxury idea that the T-Bird unintentionally started than the T-Bird was an attempt at a sports car. A bit like Jamacians trying to sing R&B but it getting lost in translation and ending up with Ska/Reggae instead.
      http://www.americanoldtimercars.com/kepek/ford-thunderbird-1965-convertible-01.jpg
      http://momentcar.com/images/ford-thunderbird-1967-6.jpg

    1. Lokki Avatar
      Lokki

      But…. I LOVE that car

      1. Hillman_Hunter Avatar
        Hillman_Hunter

        It’s fantastic.

  8. Darren McLellan Avatar
    Darren McLellan

    Between said E-Type and the photo of the Datsun, you nailed it for me.