Today’s Hoonatica entry was suggested by fellow Hooniverse staffer Kamil Kaluski. who wants to know about “Vehicles with two C-pillar windows. This is tricky, as window usually is a division between the C- and D-pillars.” He included the above photo as an illustration.
Now, if his suggested characteristic is not crystal clear to you, you are not alone, as the resulting staff E-mails indicate. Robert Emslie replied, “Huh? What the hell are you talking about?” Alan Cesar attempted to clarify the question by asking, “Are you talking about the window ahead of and behind the C pillar? That this car is an oddball because it has 2 in that sense? Or do you mean just the little bitty triangle window?” Unfortunately, like the Greek oracle, Kamil’s replied was equally cryptic: “Yes, exactly!” Not a helpful answer to an either/or question, Kamil.
Rather than pursue this further via messages between staffers, it’s more fun (and slackerific) to simply pose Kamil’s original question to the Hooniverse hivemind and let all of you try to sort this out. So, post whatever vehicles YOU THINK fit his, um…C-window…D-pillar…very tricky criterion, and we’ll see what sticks.
Difficulty:
The part that possibly makes the most sense: Read the comments first and don’t post duplicates. Adding photos with standard HTML is good, but shrink the big ones with width="500"
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Image Source: You’d have to go ask Kamil, he’s the one who E-mailed it to me.
The old A-class
<img src="http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/mercedes-benz-a-class–first-generation_100346086_m.jpg" width=500 />
A particularly ugly design trend also used on the following cars:
– Mercedes A-Klasse (the first one), Peugeot 407 SW, Peugeot 207 SW (red) and Toyota Picnic (green).
<img src="http://www.feline207.net/media/upload/dossier-peugeot-207-sw-tarifs.jpg"><img src="http://isuzufoto.tuningimagehosting.com/di-2014_toyota_picnic_2_0-cb5076ee45fc5be46aa2f2985978d77e.jpg">
SsangYong Rodius, both the original…
<img src="http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecache/file/fit/730×700/media/3436959/Ssangyong%20Rodius%20(2).jpg" width="500" />
…and the new one.
<img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/03/04-2013-ssangyong-rodius-geneva.jpg" width="500" />
Odd window treatments seem to be a Ssangyong thing, the Rexton does it too.
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Ssangyong_Rexton_%28first_generation%29_%28rear%29%2C_Serdang.jpg/1280px-Ssangyong_Rexton_%28first_generation%29_%28rear%29%2C_Serdang.jpg" width="500">
Does this count? I'm going to say this counts. Nissan AD Max.
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Nissan_AD_Max_001.JPG" width="500">
The "c-pillar" wording would limit this to 4-door cars, but if what we're really looking for here is cars with split quarter windows (and I think we are) then it opens up to a bunch of 2-door cars
<img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-89_6DbN9fA0/T-AqQ-eOMKI/AAAAAAAACEQ/kv4NM8mnMQE/s1600/nissan_pulsar_nx_se_sportback_blue_1988.jpg”/>
Not the Pulsar from yesterday but maybe where this train of thought started?
<img src="http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2013/03/cars/1986_Nissan_Pathfinder-1.jpg"/>
Original Pathfinder
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Merkur_XR4Ti.jpg" width="666">
I think the original question implied 4 doors, but who cares! Good stuff!
Renault Alpine A610 Turbo
<img src="https://cochesclasicosdehoy.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/renault-alpine-a610-turbo.jpg" width="666">
I also thought there might be a pillar under that glass somewhere, because it seems like at least part of it is moveable.
WANT PATHFINDER!
The 1957 Buick coupes also seemed to do a similar thing.
<img src="http://www.buicks.net/show_and_shine/popabob/black_57_1.jpg" width="500">
I am really happy you found something that tangents beauty.
Am I playing this right?
<img src="http://binatani.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/large_1961-Dodge-Lancer-wagon-fvr.jpg">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/1961_Dodge_Lancer_770_Station_Wagon.jpg/800px-1961_Dodge_Lancer_770_Station_Wagon.jpg" width="500">
Alternate image and also yes. (The image you picked just happened to be from a place that doesn't like hotlinking, it's kind of a pain)
1959 and 1960 full size GM wagons.
<img src="http://www.59classicchevy.com/images/1959-chevrolet-parkwood.jpg">
The old Kia Carens:
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/20110722_kia_carens_02.jpg/1280px-20110722_kia_carens_02.jpg" width="500">
Not sure if it counts, but Ford did go a bit overboard with window panes in the C-pillar area on the early to mid-90's Crown Victoria.
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/1994_ford_crown_victoria.jpeg/640px-1994_ford_crown_victoria.jpeg" width="500"/>
Image from wikipedia, author "Reflect"
No, that's just a single C-pillar window behind the rear door.
We're looking for multiple C-pillar windows, with one behind the door and another more rearward one by the rear window. …I THINK.
I have no idea what I am talking about, and that c-pillar serves as a d-pillar anyway, but I am happy to recycle this comment from yesterday – an Australian version of the Nissan EXA with canopy:
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Nissan_EXA_Canopy.JPG/640px-Nissan_EXA_Canopy.JPG" width="400">
I don't think so. The windows are in the hatch, not between any pillars.
Also, if I understand how pillars are labeled, this doesn't have a D pillar, only A, B and C.
Which is c then: the diagonal or the last one?
Disclaimer: I never thought through these definitions… and do they apply for buses?
The diagonal one (in the Pulsar) is the last one. The vertical "pillar" at the back isn't really a pillar as it's completely in the hatch and doesn't' support the roof at all.
My understanding is you start at the front with the A pillar and assign every pillar a letter as you go back. Things do get weird in the cast of cars like the Bolt or the A class up top. They would seemingly have A, B, C, D & E pillars.
The bus question is a good one, I'm not sure if the label pillars in the bus industry. I kinda doubt it, but maybe.
EDIT: OK, I'm wrong, at least according to Wikipedia:
Am I missing something? Doesn't seem all that uncommon.
<img src="http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1661/2201/29151100014_large.jpg">
<img src="http://gomotors.net/photos/e6/7c/datsun-140y-fastback-coupe-02-image_b621f.jpg">
<img src="http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Datsun-200sx1.jpg">
<img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lam1bxHpCP1qaakzyo1_500.jpg">
Also
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Dodge_Omni_024_rear.jpg/640px-Dodge_Omni_024_rear.jpg" width="500"/>
I think what Kamil was getting to is the reverse diagonal pillar and the windows on either side that seem to join in to the side glass on one side and the rear glass on the other.
Maybe.
At any rate, these don't seem to match to me.
Surprise, Surprise, my longerroof seems to fit right in….
<img src="http://hooniverse.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/PICT4630.jpg" width=500>
Now, is that big panel rearwards from that sliding door a C-pillar on vans? Maybe? If so, Hyundai Grace 2000 (what a name!):
<img src="http://www.cars-directory.net/pics/hyundai/grace/2000/hyundai_grace_a1253008230b3029919.jpg">
also…
<img src="http://hooniverse.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Fullscreen-capture-9292012-51112-PM.bmp.jpg" width="666">
The slabs of glass down the side of that Hyundai "Nancy Grace Edition" made me think of this…
1954 Henney-Packard Super Station Wagon
<img src="http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/h/henney/oo1953_Pack-Henn_Spr_Stnwgn.jpg">
<img src="http://zeteo.com/mar/files/cache/116495d49d0c3656f8e67fdba154cc9e_f587.jpg">
Never a more appropriate name…